Grammatron wrote:Cool Hand wrote:Grammatron wrote:Cool Hand wrote:Evidence on his height? Watch any televised game and compare him to other players on the field. Also, look at Manziel's head in relation to Nick Saban's head while they are standing next to each other in the pic in the first post. Saban is 5'9" and 170 lbs. There is no fucking way Manziel is taller than him by more than an inch, if that. Manziel is too small to play QB the NFL. Is that being petty about his character? Hell no. It has nothing to do with it. It does have everything to do with his prospects as a QB in the NFL, however, which is the context in which I brought it up. I didn't do it to be petty; I did it because it is relevant to whether he has a future in the NFL. Obviously he recognized its relevance too, or he wouldn't be lying about his height. He claims to be 6 feet tall. Again, look at the photo with 5'9" Saban and tell me with a straight face that Manziel is 3 inches taller than him.
Seriously? You want to use video and photographs of unknown perspective and manipulation as evidence? Disappointing.
Oh, for fuck's sake, Grammy, have you even watched the guy play live on television? I have, and after a couple of dozen hours of live, unmanipulated TV video watching, it's clear he's much shorter than he claims.
The only way to show his height is go up to him with a ruler. Everything else is speculation.
Well, yeah, if you want to take the "debate" about his height to Clausian levels. Otherwise, it's a damn good educated guess than he's a good bit shorter than he claims. Unless you insist that you don't know Tom Cruise is a short fucker because you personally have not stood next to him with a yardstick or ruler.
I don't think you're that obstinate.
The whole height thing and being good in the NFL is not something I entirely agree with personally, but that's a different conversation all together.
It is a different discussion, I suppose, but I think the reality of playing QB in the NFL in 2013 and 2014 is that you need to be about as tall as your short to medium receivers. I think 6'2"+ is getting to be the norm. There are several guys who are 6'3" and 6'4", and even 6'5" at QB. And the younger ones are not skinny or wiry. It's a passing league, and passing QBs are getting taller.