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Post by Pyrrho » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:30 am

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... th-opioids
In the 2000s, the last time meth use surged across the country, people would often "cook" meth in toxic and explosive labs typically set up in bathrooms, kitchens or abandoned buildings. In response, Congress enacted the Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act in 2006, which regulated the sale of certain over-the-counter drugs, like pseudoephedrine, used in cooking meth. Meth use declined, seizures by law enforcement fell, and meth labs started to disappear.

Now, meth is back, and not just in Ohio. Communities around the country are raising the alarm.

In 2012, 17,846 pounds of the stimulant drug were seized by law enforcement agents in the U.S. or at the border, according to U.S. Customs and Border Control. By 2017, that number had more than tripled, and much of it now comes from Mexico.

"What everybody is doing now is buying the cheap Mexican meth, and not cooking anymore," says Vinton County prosecutor Trecia Kimes-Brown.
"The reality is meth has been with us for many years," Chambers says. In fact, he says, it might be better to stop talking about an "opioid crisis" or a "meth crisis" and admit we have a "polysubstance epidemic."

What's underlying it he says, especially in rural areas, is a broken mental health care system.

In fact, 56 out of 88 Ohio counties have mental health care provider shortages, mostly in rural areas. This leaves about 70 percent of the population with unmet mental health care needs in Ohio, and rates are similar throughout much of the Midwest, South and Western U.S., according to data from the department of Health and Human Services.

"I'm concerned about the ongoing shortages," says Chambers. "If you want decent mental healthcare in the U.S. you better live in the big cities."
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Re: Meth

Post by Skeeve » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:10 pm

Pyrrho wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... th-opioids
In the 2000s, the last time meth use surged across the country, people would often "cook" meth in toxic and explosive labs typically set up in bathrooms, kitchens or abandoned buildings. In response, Congress enacted the Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act in 2006, which regulated the sale of certain over-the-counter drugs, like pseudoephedrine, used in cooking meth. Meth use declined, seizures by law enforcement fell, and meth labs started to disappear.

Now, meth is back, and not just in Ohio. Communities around the country are raising the alarm.

In 2012, 17,846 pounds of the stimulant drug were seized by law enforcement agents in the U.S. or at the border, according to U.S. Customs and Border Control. By 2017, that number had more than tripled, and much of it now comes from Mexico.

"What everybody is doing now is buying the cheap Mexican meth, and not cooking anymore," says Vinton County prosecutor Trecia Kimes-Brown.
"The reality is meth has been with us for many years," Chambers says. In fact, he says, it might be better to stop talking about an "opioid crisis" or a "meth crisis" and admit we have a "polysubstance epidemic."

What's underlying it he says, especially in rural areas, is a broken mental health care system.

In fact, 56 out of 88 Ohio counties have mental health care provider shortages, mostly in rural areas. This leaves about 70 percent of the population with unmet mental health care needs in Ohio, and rates are similar throughout much of the Midwest, South and Western U.S., according to data from the department of Health and Human Services.

"I'm concerned about the ongoing shortages," says Chambers. "If you want decent mental healthcare in the U.S. you better live in the big cities."
Maybe we need to invest in a wall between us and Mexico?

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Re: Meth

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:16 pm

Well good.

Less of a fire hazard this way.
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Re: Meth

Post by sparks » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:29 pm

"What's underlying it he says, especially in rural areas, is a broken mental health care system."

Thanks Ronnie.
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Re: Meth

Post by Bruce » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:00 am

Another successful American business stolen by the Mexicans. Thanks, whichever president caused that. :freedom:
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Re: Meth

Post by RCC: Act II » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:00 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Well good.

Less of a fire hazard this way.
Longer supply lines and contributes to instability in Mexico which isn't all that helpful or safe either. Also is a more potent product which is also bad as far as dependence goes.

Treating drug issues as a supply problem has been a colossal failure. Better to just manufacture it here and use civil means to control it like we do any other type of amphetamine. Just accept that recreational use of this and similar drugs is a valid choice (and that labeling as "recreational" something people do to relax or get up in the morning is a minimizing term) and go from there.

I'm up to my tits in heroin. This is because they've managed to make pain pills hard to get. So now instead of a corrupt doctor handing out pills of defined dosage, we have heroin being smuggled into the country, mixed with fentanyl or whatever, and as a result a shitload more overdoses.

It is madness.

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Re: Meth

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:27 pm

Here is my full position:

Legalize it, but attempt to prevent children from getting their hands on it, as is done with tobacco.
But don't tax it more than other goods (unlike tobacco), because that would give the state an incentive to encourage people to buy it.

Let US drug companies manufacture it with proper quality control, and no retail advertizing.
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