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Re: Space Force

Post by Witness » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:11 am

Time wrote:Why Trump's 'Space Force' Won't — and Shouldn't — Happen

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Let’s start with the fact that a Space Force, authorized by the President, already exists. Only the President was Ronald Reagan and the force was activated on Sept. 1, 1982. It is formally known as the Air Force Space Command, and, as its name suggests, it is not a co-equal branch of the military, but a division of the Air Force—which itself was once a division of the Army, Navy and Marines. But the Space Command’s somewhat lesser status doesn’t mean it’s not a robust organization, with more than 36,000 service people stationed at 134 locations worldwide.

Space Command’s work involves Earth surveillance, weather forecasting, communications, command and control of ground-based weapons and satellite security. And it has the money to execute that mission: The Air Force’s space-related budget request for 2019 included $8.5 billion for acquisition and development of new Space Command systems, which is itself just part of a $44.3 billion space hardware bill over five years. None of that includes the cost of personnel, logistics, deployment, and all of the other expenses associated with keeping an operation of 36,000 people running. It’s an impressive enterprise. So what would you get out of spinning it off into a Space Force, which would require a completely separate command structure, Chief of Staff and bureaucracy, all of which would exponentially increase its budget? The answer is: not much.
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Re: Space Force

Post by Pyrrho » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:13 am

It's not about a return on investment for the government or society.
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Re: Space Force

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Re: Space Force

Post by sparks » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:22 pm

(ST: TNG) Photo is reversed. Comm badges are on the wrong side.
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Re: Space Force

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Re: Space Force

Post by sparks » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:26 pm

It's the meaningless, inconsequential shit that I notice. That's how I've risen to this lofty position I now hold you see. :)
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Re: Space Force

Post by Pyrrho » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:24 am

https://www.duffelblog.com/2018/06/spac ... t-surgery/
With President Donald Trump’s announcement of a new Space Force service branch, military doctors are preparing themselves for the impossible but now necessary task of performing rocket surgery, sources confirmed today.

“When I was enlisted as a medic, if we were failing at something, first sergeant would say ‘it ain’t rocket surgery,’” said Army Lt. Col. (Dr.) Harrison Patrick, a physician at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. “Every veteran has come to understand that, in first sergeant’s estimation, rocket surgery is the most difficult thing a human being could conceive of.”
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Re: Space Force

Post by Pyrrho » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:01 pm

https://www.wired.com/story/new-arms-ra ... -in-space/
For days, US intelligence had been picking up indications that China was about to conduct a missile test aimed at outer space. The analysts next door—and their counterparts around the world—were tracking ground-based radar signals, monitoring infrared sensors, and poring over images from telescopes in space. All of them were briefing Shelton on what they were observing in real time. At 2:28 pm (PST) their readouts showed a ballistic missile taking off from China’s Xichang Satellite Launch Center, located in the wooded mountains of Sichuan province. The missile rose into low Earth orbit, about 500 miles above Earth’s surface, and appeared to close in on an aging Chinese weather satellite.

Then the telescopes showed a bright flash.

Minutes later, the radar screens began to track a growing cloud of debris—at least 3,000 pieces of shrapnel that would each, Shelton knew, spend the next several years slingshotting around Earth at speeds that could far exceed that of a bullet. Shelton was stunned. The Chinese had just shot a satellite out of the sky.

Not only was this a stupendous technological achievement—to launch a missile from the ground and hit a celestial target moving as fast as 17,000 mph—it also showed a level of audacity not seen in space for decades. “We couldn’t imagine they would go against an actual satellite,” Shelton recalls. “Because of the debris something like that creates, it’s almost unthinkable.” It felt like a wake-up call.
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Re: Space Force

Post by sparks » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:20 am

"Not only was this a stupendous technological achievement—"

I call bullshit on this. Anyone good with the maths can calculate where these things are, and aiming a ballistic missile is about as easy. If a thing can be put into orbit, then a 'splody thing can be put there too and right next to the first one. BANG!
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Re: Space Force

Post by Doctor X » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:50 am

It was Spectre!

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Re: Space Force

Post by sparks » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:15 am

Goes without saying that the appropriate soundtrack music accompany the visual...
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Re: Space Force

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Re: Space Force

Post by WildCat » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:58 pm

Rob Lister wrote:
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Countermeasures for anti-satellite weapons don't exist, so far as I know. And probably won't ever, for the same reason you said,
And heavier than air aircraft are impossible... seriously why would you even say that? Lots of military assets are fixed in place, and yet we have systems and methods in pace to defend them. Satellites are no different.
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Re: Space Force

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:13 pm

The question is still whether or not the existing USAF Space Command is up to meeting any such threat.

I would say they are, and Trump is simply playing to the rubes again.
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Re: Space Force

Post by WildCat » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:31 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:13 pm
The question is still whether or not the existing USAF Space Command is up to meeting any such threat.

I would say they are, and Trump is simply playing to the rubes again.
Are they, or do the issues get shelved while they focus on some sexy new jet or missile system? Losing our military and civilian satellites would be an incredibly bad thing in time of war, and I think that is worth its own branch of the military. The Air Force won't be happy, but the Army wasn't happy when the Air Force was created either.
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Re: Space Force

Post by Doctor X » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:39 pm

The Coast Guard will be happy, but they are just dicks.

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Re: Space Force

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:55 pm

Has anybody left or right previously alleged the USAF wasn't up to it?
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Re: Space Force

Post by WildCat » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:58 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
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Has anybody left or right previously alleged the USAF wasn't up to it?
Are we able to defend our satellites today after the USAF has been on the job since the first one was put into orbit?
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Re: Space Force

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:20 pm

Did Trump say that's why we need a space force, or are you just engaging in off the cuff apologetics?
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