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Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:22 am

Apparently Trump has "tent cities" in mind for illegal immigrants. Allusions to concentration camps abound.

You could look it up. I'm too tired.

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The Trump administration is looking to build tent cities at military posts around Texas to shelter the increasing number of unaccompanied migrant children being held in detention.

The Department of Health and Human Services will visit Fort Bliss, a sprawling Army base near El Paso in the coming weeks to look at a parcel of land where the administration is considering building a tent city to hold between 1,000 and 5,000 children, according to U.S. officials and other sources familiar with the plans.

HHS officials confirmed that they’re looking at the Fort Bliss site along with Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene and Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo for potential use as temporary shelters.

“HHS will make the determination if any of the three sites assessed are suitable," said an HHS official.
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Pyrrho » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:30 am

Stop separating children from families at the border and that might cut down on the number of children who need a place to live.

Yes, I know about the unaccompanied children who arrive at the borders.
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby shemp » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:58 am

Induct them into the military, serve ten years...citizenship! It's not just a job, it's an adventure!
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby corplinx » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:17 am

Where is Glenn Beck when we need him to draw this on a chalkboard for us?

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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Anaxagoras » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:24 am

Actually I'm thinking more of Joe Arpaio than the Fema camps. Maybe that's where he got the idea for "tent cities."

Don't want to make them too comfortable, it's supposed to be punishment.

I'm sure The Captain and the Bosses would understand.
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Giz » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:58 am

Pyrrho wrote:Allusions to concentration camps abound.
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Yes, “temporary housing for illegal immigrants “ sounds like herr gropingfuhrer Trumps final solution to the immigrant problem. Or not. Maybe the most in debt nation in history is just trying to find a cost effective way to supply “ temporary housing for illegal immigrants “ ? Maybe calling them “concentration camps” diminish the historical horror?

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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Anaxagoras » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:27 am

I would quibble with calling the USA "the most in debt nation in history."

It depends how you look at the question. The USA also has the largest economy in history, and proportionally, other nations are currently or have been in the past, in a deeper hole relative to their ability to pay. Just as a person with a larger income can afford to take on more debt, so can a nation with a larger economy.
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Boss Paul » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:19 am

Anaxagoras wrote:I'm sure The Captain and the Bosses would understand.


But suppose they was to backslide?

Suppose they was to backsass?
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Anaxagoras » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:22 am

A night in the box should cure them of that, Boss!
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:35 am

Think of Ellis Island. The historical example held up as how to be properly inclusive of immigrants -- and indeed there were no numerical quotas by nationality (at least at first) nor any particular requirement to have one's papers in order.

But the whole point of making everyone land at Ellis Island was so that those denied entry would be sure to go back on the next ship out.

Reasons for rejection included Trachoma.

That's right. Turning away sick children, just because they were sick children.

Furthermore all pregnant women were denied entry.

And waiting on line at Ellis Island for days on end was no picnic.

If Trump were to implement the policies in force when my grandparents came to America (through Ellis Island), he'd be accused of genocide.
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby ed » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:52 am

Anaxagoras wrote:A night in the box should cure them of that, Boss!


If they are kids it should be the sand-box :x :x
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby ed » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:55 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Think of Ellis Island. The historical example held up as how to be properly inclusive of immigrants -- and indeed there were no numerical quotas by nationality (at least at first) nor any particular requirement to have one's papers in order.

But the whole point of making everyone land at Ellis Island was so that those denied entry would be sure to go back on the next ship out.

Reasons for rejection included Trachoma.

That's right. Turning away sick children, just because they were sick children.

Furthermore all pregnant women were denied entry.

And waiting on line at Ellis Island for days on end was no picnic.

If Trump were to implement the policies in force when my grandparents came to America (through Ellis Island), he'd be accused of genocide.


Thats nothing.. M yforebaears had to swim over THEN wait on lines. You lot had it easy.
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:56 pm

ed wrote:Thats nothing.. M yforebaears had to swim over THEN wait on lines. You lot had it easy.


Kind of missing the point.

Even though killing bears with Bowie knives sure is tougher than running a small retail business. :P
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby WildCat » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:25 pm

Pyrrho wrote:Stop separating children from families at the border and that might cut down on the number of children who need a place to live.

Yes, I know about the unaccompanied children who arrive at the borders.

Since when do we put children in jail with their parents in this country?
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby WildCat » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:27 pm

Giz wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:Allusions to concentration camps abound.
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Yes, “temporary housing for illegal immigrants “ sounds like herr gropingfuhrer Trumps final solution to the immigrant problem. Or not. Maybe the most in debt nation in history is just trying to find a cost effective way to supply “ temporary housing for illegal immigrants “ ? Maybe calling them “concentration camps” diminish the historical horror?

Don't you remember how the Nazis in Germany had to build camps to house some of the millions of foreign Jews that were flooding into the country once they took power?
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Doctor X » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:57 pm

They said the camps were to die for.





8 million cannot be wrong.




Or am I "exaggerating?"








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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby Pyrrho » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:55 am

WildCat wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:Stop separating children from families at the border and that might cut down on the number of children who need a place to live.

Yes, I know about the unaccompanied children who arrive at the borders.

Since when do we put children in jail with their parents in this country?

Some of them are here seeking asylum. Technically they aren't in jail. But I guess that's a minor quibble.

But hey, it hasn't just been this administration. Goes back a long way.
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby ed » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:06 am

Passing thru a country where they could get asylum to get here shows an unacceptable level of pickiness.
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby WildCat » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:19 pm

If only there was something these people could do to avoid being split up and sent to these detention facilities...
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Re: Remember the FEMA camps conspiracy theories?

Postby gnome » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:43 am

WildCat wrote:If only there was something these people could do to avoid being split up and sent to these detention facilities...


I'm not a fan of this kind of reasoning. It dismisses the need to evaluate our own actions at all.

"Should we be doing (fill in the blank) to border crossers?"
"Why do you care? They can just not jump the border."

That rationale effectively offers that whatever's in that blank is fair game.
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