MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

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MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by Skeeve » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:47 pm

MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around
Sex and the City, which premiered 20 years ago this week, changed the way women thought about sex. The assertion of the show’s main character, Carrie Bradshaw, that she will start having sex “like men” — sleeping around and feeling “nothing” afterwards — struck a chord. It was a new kind of fairy tale — a glitzy, glamorous, New York City Cinderella ditching the prince but keeping the shoes. Twenty years later, though, these “real-life” Carrie Bradshaws are single, childless, and many are starting to wonder what happened to their happy endings.
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In fact, in the years since the show’s premiere, Sex and the City has come to be seen as not feminist enough — receiving criticism for leaving its four heroines happily paired up romantically by the series finale. In 2010,
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There's only one problem: eventually women do want to settle down. In fact, many of the women who bought into the Sex and the City lifestyle 20 years ago are coming forward to share their regrets. Julia Allison says the show literally “ruined her life.” She says it peddled a “fear of intimacy disguised as empowerment.” Writing for The New York Post, Allison wistfully wonders what her life might have been like if she hadn’t bought into the Sex and the City philosophy. “Perhaps I’d be married with children now?”
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In her memoir, Unwifeable, journalist and former dating columnist Mandy Stadtmiller describes how a decade of living the “real-life Carrie Bradshaw” lifestyle left her fearful that there “might be no one out there left for me at all.”
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She writes, “I told myself I was a feminist,” but, ultimately, she came to realize that happiness came, not from casual sex and no-strings-attached relationships, but from “only revealing [her heart] when someone has proven themselves worthy.”

The fact that the women of Sex and the City ultimately want to settle down is not the unrealistic lie the show sold these women. The lie is that they can settle down after spending their 20s and 30s sleeping around.
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Re: MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by corplinx » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:50 pm

I refuse to buy into the premise that this show was influential.

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Re: MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:03 pm

OK quick informal poll.

1) Who here has NEVER seen this show?
2) Who here has watched only a short clip or so long after the fact on YouTube?
3) Who here has watched this show only once, but did not stay to the end?
4) Who here has watched all the way through, but only once?
5) Who here will die defiled?

That should cover all the possibilities.

FWIW, I'm at choice #2.
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Post by WildCat » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:19 pm

I've never seen a single episode, and if I've seen a short clip I don't remember it.
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Re: MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by Skeeve » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:24 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:OK quick informal poll.

1) Who here has NEVER seen this show?
2) Who here has watched only a short clip or so long after the fact on YouTube?
3) Who here has watched this show only once, but did not stay to the end?
4) Who here has watched all the way through, but only once?
5) Who here will die defiled?

That should cover all the possibilities.

FWIW, I'm at choice #2.
You forgot one,
6) Who here is female?
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Re: MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:58 pm

Skeeve wrote:You forgot one,
6) Who here is female?
If only. :|
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Re: MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by ed » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:32 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:OK quick informal poll.

1) Who here has NEVER seen this show? Never
2) Who here has watched only a short clip or so long after the fact on YouTube? Not even that
3) Who here has watched this show only once, but did not stay to the end? No
4) Who here has watched all the way through, but only once? No
5) Who here will die defiled? No

That should cover all the possibilities.

FWIW, I'm at choice #2.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:50 pm

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Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:53 pm

Yeah

We should totally make women wear burkas and force them to marry the first guy they sleep with

For their own good

Thats the ticket
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Re: MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:55 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:Yeah

We should totally make women wear burkas and force them to marry the first guy they sleep with

For their own good

Thats the ticket
Wrong thread :?
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Post by WildCat » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:09 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:Yeah

We should totally make women wear burkas and force them to marry the first guy they sleep with

For their own good

Thats the ticket
Wrong thread :?
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Post by corplinx » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:45 pm

No, I just beat him to the obvious joke so he had to pivot.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:51 pm

Sorry Nyar, I didn't mean to provoke a pile-on. :|
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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:07 pm

Yawn.

Maybe not every woman wants the same thing. If it's argument by anecdote, I'm sure someone could find women who made the opposite choice who lived to regret it too. Women who got married and started having kids at a young age only to realize later that they had trapped themselves in a life they don't want, and wish they hade made other choices.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:21 pm

OK so I googled a little in the fouler corners of the 'net and here is the most misogynistic analysis of this so called news I could find.

And no, I am not being ironic saying "misogynistic". This man utterly despises women.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/06 ... rs-lament/

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Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:09 am

Whatever. The column is written by a woman who wants to reassure herself and others that the life choices she made were better than the life choices of others. Because, oh look, now some of them regret it and wish they had done it differently. But there are also plenty of people who choose to "settle down and have a family" who also end up regretting their life choices. You could end up in an unhappy marriage stuck raising kids who don't appreciate you. Half of marriages end in divorce. These people are comparing their lives to some idealized hypothetical marriage, but the grass always appears greener on the other side. Who's to say they wouldn't have picked the wrong spouse and ended up with just as much regret or more as they do now.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:39 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Sorry Nyar, I didn't mean to provoke a pile-on. :|
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Re: MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by sparks » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:15 am

Someone, anyone, who complains that a fucking TV show ruined their lives is a goddamned fool.

No sympathy.

Goddamn people, it's just TV!!11Eleventy.
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Post by Bruce » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:29 am

I have read similar rants about how Disney's portrayal of Princesses has ruined women's lives. They waited too long for their Prince, or worse, found that their Prince failed to live up to the Disney level of perfection.
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Re: MOORE: 20 Years After 'Sex And The City,' The 'Real-Life Carrie Bradshaws' Are Wishing They Hadn't Slept Around

Post by gnome » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:50 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:OK quick informal poll.

1) Who here has NEVER seen this show?
2) Who here has watched only a short clip or so long after the fact on YouTube?
3) Who here has watched this show only once, but did not stay to the end?
4) Who here has watched all the way through, but only once?
5) Who here will die defiled?

That should cover all the possibilities.

FWIW, I'm at choice #2.
I'm in #3 area. I started watching when it began because--hey! Square Pegs girl and the Manneqin girl and the girl from that John Lithgow high school nuclear science project movie... and it's HBO so people get naked!

Then I noticed that it was mostly Kim Cattrall getting naked, which was OK, but ultimately disappointing. The storylines weren't interesting enough for me to keep watching anyway.
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