The War on Thoughts and Prayers

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The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby corplinx » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:12 am

I'm an unbeliever. Shock!

Lately there is a tendency after any tragedy with a political component, for bitter atheists and leftists to start shitposting memes with empty barrels, trailers, etc full of "thoughts and prayers".

HA HA HA. So CREATIVE!

They use it as a way to shame mostly right wing christians into not supporting their latest attempt to curtail First or Second Amendment rights.

"SENDING THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS IS U EXCUSING INACTION. SPECIFICALLY, NOT BACKING MY PRESCRIPTIONS!!!!"

What kind of coarse, abrasive society are we where we drop our trousers and urinate in the faces of people saying in the only way they know how "this is tragic and I am powerless to reverse the events, you are in my thoughts".

I have a sneaky suspicion that this kind of rotgut just makes those people go vote for the Trumps and Brexits of the world even harder. People still haven't caught on to the fact that reactionary movements are reacting to something.

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby shemp » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:45 am

Your anger is blocking the energy in your chakras. I will pray for you.
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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby corplinx » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:28 am

Thanks Shemp. Now IM FUCKING CURSED.

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Nyarlathotep » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:01 am

corplinx wrote:
What kind of coarse, abrasive society are we where we drop our trousers and urinate in the faces of people saying in the only way they know how "this is tragic and I am powerless to reverse the events, you are in my thoughts".


The kind that also responds to any sort of kindness or compassion for other people as "POLTICAL KERRRECNUSS GONE WILD!!!!"

Lets not kid ourselves and pretend that anyone gives a shit about anyone in our society outside of our own little monkeyspheres

corplinx wrote:I have a sneaky suspicion that this kind of rotgut just makes those people go vote for the Trumps and Brexits of the world even harder. People still haven't caught on to the fact that reactionary movements are reacting to something.


Yes, doing anything except exactly what the Trumpies and Brexiters and Alt-righties and so on and so forth want you to di is EXACTLY why we have Trump and Brexit etc. Surely the only way to get rid of them is to...do exactly what they say.

Sure. Sounds legit
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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby corplinx » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:46 am

That's exactly what I say. You have correctly described my opinion. I consider all criticism whether irrational or rational to feed reactionary movements. Everyone must get down on their knees and suck Betsy Devos's way in over her head cock and hail trump.

You win.

Now what?

I mean, if we just cede that your strawmen are true, who actually wins? I don't get what the end game to these types of arguments are supposed to be.

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Doctor X » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:40 am

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Yeah.

When a religious person bleats "miracle" when one guy survives and thousands die, they are stupid. Perhaps insensitive.

An Atheist should know better.

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Nyarlathotep » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:09 pm

corplinx wrote: I don't get what the end game to these types of arguments are supposed to be.


Tell me the end game of trying to silence all criticism of Trump by trying to convince people that all criticism helps him and we will both know.
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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:36 pm

I for one am not trying to silence all criticism of Trump. In fact I do that myself all the time.

But I think corplinx has a point that I myself have noticed way back in the pre-Trump epoch.

A good non-political example of this sort of thing:

Atheist: SNEEZE.
Sap: God bless you.
Atheist: Oh? A fucking priest!

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby corplinx » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:57 pm

I can't silence anybody.

I can point out that reactionary movement are typically reacting to things (justified or not).

Nobody is listening to me pull me hair out about self-defeating anti-right-wing strategies.

" I hate right wingers. We should defeat them. Here let me go throw gasoline on their fire, that will show them."

herp derp

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby corplinx » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:01 pm

You know who _is_ trying to silence people? Assholes in the zeitgeist shaming people for asking their deity to intercede on behalf of victims/survivors.

Yes, we know scientifically intercessory prayer doesn't work. Pissing in people's faces doesn't enlighten them.

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Nyarlathotep » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:28 pm

corplinx wrote:I can't silence anybody.

I can point out that reactionary movement are typically reacting to things (justified or not).

Nobody is listening to me pull me hair out about self-defeating anti-right-wing strategies.

" I hate right wingers. We should defeat them. Here let me go throw gasoline on their fire, that will show them."

herp derp


Except that, conveniently, anything and everything that in any way is critical of them or deviates from what they want is "throwing gasoline on their fire" apparently
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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby corplinx » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:56 pm

That's exactly my position. _ANY_ criticism of the orange cartoon we have as president is invalid and just emboldens the right wing.

What now?

You win.

Is victory as hollow and empty as it was for Johnny having his student win the tournament for Cobra Kai?

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby ed » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:01 pm

Who exactly is trying to silence criticism of Trump? Nyrl, can you provide any quotes? Absent a quote I will just take this as a troll.

I think that the criticism has become caricature and is probably assuring a victory for him in '20 but I think criticism is just fine. As it is of the loony left. In fact, any diminution of critism and hopping about would be a sign of not good things happening.


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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby corplinx » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:04 pm

Moreover, if they are trying to silence criticism they are doing a poor job since CNN, MSNBC, Colbert, Kimmel, Conan, etc, etc, The View, are all still very vocal. These silencers are the worst silencers aren't they folks?

Haven't silenced a single person.

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Nyarlathotep » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:07 pm

corplinx wrote:That's exactly my position. _ANY_ criticism of the orange cartoon we have as president is invalid and just emboldens the right wing.


That seems to be the incredibly convenient position of a lot of people
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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Nyarlathotep » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:09 pm

ed wrote: In fact, any diminution of critism and hopping about would be a sign of not good things happening.


Doesn't stop anyone from trying their damndest
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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:12 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:Doesn't stop anyone from trying their damndest


Around here? In this thread?

I am not seeing it.
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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby corplinx » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:14 pm

I'm totally doxxing people who say these things and then trying to get angry twitter mobs to harass their employers to fire them.

Oh wait.. that's not me is it. I forget whose doing that.

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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Nyarlathotep » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:21 pm

Nah, you are just trying to convince people that any criticism of Trump or of the Right in general somehow makes them stronger so they shouldn't do it.
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Re: The War on Thoughts and Prayers

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:40 pm

Nyar: No place takes second place to Free Republic for love of Trump.
Compare and contrast.

viewtopic.php?p=762902#p762902

moi wrote:
Have one tab open to Free Republic and the other open to Democratic Underground.

These are a good match ... because they are both massive online discussion groups, and roughly the same demographic modulo political leanings.

Just start reading one until you are like this ==>> :HoppingMad:
Then switch to the other for some welcome moral sanity, until you are like this ==>> :HoppingMad2:

Repeat ad lib until you are like this ==>> Image



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