Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:31 pm

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We are seeing something similar brewing in the definition of "racist".
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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by Skeeve » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:55 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:And Doctor X didn't even give me a like for a Genesis tune.

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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

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asthmatic camel wrote:And Doctor X didn't even give me a like for a Genesis tune.

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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by Skeeve » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:01 pm

Here is an interesting take on this, from a British Pakistani POV
Maajid Nawaz's Must-Watch Take On Tommy Robinson's Imprisonment
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"I just wish that those young girls had seen justice served for them as fast as the judge served Tommy Robinson justice in this case.

"Because in this case it's very easy for us to pick on the bogeyman, but actually the truth is that our silence over decades in this country is the real bogeyman and that's the real thing we should despise, our own cowardice in the face of grooming of young girls up and down this country and our conspiracy of silence."
First UK-Pakistani that I have seen, who admits this...

The article is short and the video is shorter (< 4 min.)

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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by corplinx » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:13 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:In South Africa back during the days of apartheid, it was illegal to be a Communist.
But "Communist" was legally defined as meaning opposed to apartheid. Period.

We are seeing something similar brewing in the definition of "racist".
Calling everyone who disagrees with you racist reaches a breaking point.

Once they called everyone who wanted to Brexit or Vote for Trump racist, those people weren't shamed out of voting. Suddenly the word lost power over them because they realized it was ridiculous.

"I realize that if I was voting for David Duke this might applicable, but now I realize you are just a screaming manchild."

The "racist" card is good up to a point and then it loses it's persuasion power.

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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:44 pm

corplinx wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:In South Africa back during the days of apartheid, it was illegal to be a Communist.
But "Communist" was legally defined as meaning opposed to apartheid. Period.

We are seeing something similar brewing in the definition of "racist".
Calling everyone who disagrees with you racist reaches a breaking point.

Once they called everyone who wanted to Brexit or Vote for Trump racist, those people weren't shamed out of voting. Suddenly the word lost power over them because they realized it was ridiculous.

"I realize that if I was voting for David Duke this might applicable, but now I realize you are just a screaming manchild."

The "racist" card is good up to a point and then it loses it's persuasion power.
As far as it goes now, but wait until "being a racist" is a criminal offense.
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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by Skeeve » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:53 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
corplinx wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:In South Africa back during the days of apartheid, it was illegal to be a Communist.
But "Communist" was legally defined as meaning opposed to apartheid. Period.

We are seeing something similar brewing in the definition of "racist".
Calling everyone who disagrees with you racist reaches a breaking point.

Once they called everyone who wanted to Brexit or Vote for Trump racist, those people weren't shamed out of voting. Suddenly the word lost power over them because they realized it was ridiculous.

"I realize that if I was voting for David Duke this might applicable, but now I realize you are just a screaming manchild."

The "racist" card is good up to a point and then it loses it's persuasion power.
As far as it goes now, but wait until "being a racist" is a criminal offense.
In the UK maybe....maybe even soon.

It's going to take a bit more here (I hope)...
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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by Skeeve » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:42 am

Skeeve wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
...[Yuuuuuge snip]...

As far as it goes now, but wait until "being a racist" is a criminal offense.
In the UK maybe....maybe even soon.

It's going to take a bit more here (I hope)...
Meanwhile, back in the USSR UK: Tommy Robinson supporters are planning a march in Cambridge
Supporters of Tommy Robinson are planning a march in support of the jailed English Defence League founder in Cambridge.

Robinson, who is suing Cambridgehire Constabulary, was jailed last month after being found in contempt of court.

A march in support of Robinson has is being organised on July 21 at Parker's Piece in the city centre.

On the event's Facebook page they say: "The people will no longer be silenced. Stand up for Free speech, stand up against this dictatorship they call a government and stand up against the persecution of Tommy Robinson. Let's make this one BIG people!"

A counter protest has already been organised by Cambridge's 'Stand up to Racism' group who say the march supporting Robinson will bring racism to Cambridge.
Note: SUTR were the SJW douche-bags folks who pressured the "Scarborough Spa" to cancel out on Sargon of Akkad.
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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by Skeeve » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:27 pm

So whats up with Cambridge anyway?

One article suggests there is a class difference aspect to this whole mess, and maybe they are right.
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RACHEL: So this is a class thing?

WANDA: That's part of it. The U.K. is not the Soviet Union, but it is a class conscious society. I encounter it when I talk about Tommy Robinson online with English people. They have absolutely zero self-consciousness about flinging the most cringe-inducing, class-contempt insults. They call Tommy Robinson and his supporters "white trash" "knuckle-draggers." They also call them "gammon," a really nasty British slur for white men. "Gammon" means, more or less, pork. It's an allusion to pinkish-white skin. They call them "chav." Here's how the Urban Dictionary defines "chav." "Chavs are retards who think that their local McDonalds is a 5-star restaurant. Male chavs wear clothes and jewelry which come from a market, they have an attitude problem and smoke since the age of 11. Female chavs wear tight trousers and when they sit down they're thongs show, have fake blonde hair as straight as an ironing board or they have the 'Croydon face-lift', they lost their virginity at the age of 14 … they have really bad teeth. Chavs also use stupid words … my favorite 'innit.' It's like trying to communicate with a dog."

"The middle and upper classes in the U.K. won't be lectured to by a chav," says one online poster. Mark Steyn says that those who hate Tommy Robinson hate him at least partly because he has a working class accent, and because the women he is attempting to protect are working class women, dismissed as "Paki-shaggers" and "slags." "In Britain you run up against the snob factor because he's a street guy. The respectable classes dislike that about him," Steyn says.

There's something deeper going on. Steyn says that if you live in certain posh neighborhoods in the U.K., your life is utterly insulated from the problems that Tommy Robinson addresses. "For many people life in Britain is still very agreeable. If you have a country home somewhere in the Cotswolds and you go down to your country cottage every weekend and you look out the back of your cottage at the garden and the fields beyond, you can come out and have Pims on your terrace, look at your lawn stretching to the great, ancient, hedgerows, you think that England, undying England, is a terribly agreeable and civilized place. Why does Tommy Robinson have to spoil it? If you live in the East End of London, if you live in Luton, if you live in Birmingham, you understand that what is happening is transformative, because your part of England has already been transformed. Maybe one day that guy sitting on the terrace gazing at the ancient fields might be able to discern a fire-breathing imam on the far horizon, but right now he can't. So he thinks Tommy Robinson is nutty."
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Tommy defied the cover-up of the rape gangs. So they turned on Tommy to defame and destroy him. They raided his home, with machine guns, once at six a.m. Arrested his wife when she was six months pregnant. Threatened his parents. Audited all is relatives going back ten years. Put him under a microscope. If you or I were under that Stasi-degree of state surveillance, they'd find dirt on us, too. His criminal record? He lent a relative money so the relative could get a mortgage. He head-butted a neo-Nazi who turned up at one of his rallies.

But those who covered up the rape gangs? They walk free, and in many cases are promoted and receive raises.
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Re: Tommy Robinson & UK 'grooming gangs.'

Post by corplinx » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:02 pm

So, a bunch of out of touch elitists call the white middle class hicks and inbreds basically.

They probably get all bent out of shape when those people they spit on dare call them names back.

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Post by Skeeve » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:46 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
WildCat wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:Have I mentioned that high ranking Tories must be involved in the sex ring?

That going after the 'Paki' middle management will not end the problem.
Yeah but I'm sure most of us just dismiss it as another of your kooky, baseless, evidence-free conspiracy theories.
Based on their behavior.

We'll see.
They will not be able to suppress the story once it really breaks.
Evidence of police corruption...
'ABUSE FAILURES' Who is Maggie Oliver? Ex-detective who helped to expose the Rochdale child sex abuse gang and CBB 2018 contestant
Who is Margaret Oliver?

Margaret Oliver is a former detective constable in Greater Manchester Police (GMP).

The mum-of-four was commended for her work during murder and gang crime inquiries.

Oliver worked on sex abuse investigations in 2004 and 2010.
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It found 26 teenage girls thought to have had underage sex and a list of 208 potential suspects was drawn up.

When Oliver returned to work following a family bereavement she found the inquiry had been abandoned.

Six years later she joined Operation Span which looked into organised grooming in the Heywood district of Rochdale after a 2008 inquiry failed.

Span secured the convictions of nine men at Liverpool Crown Court in May 2012.
See also: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... g-13027067


Lenny Harper tells Jersey Care enquiry corrupt police were not charged
Former police chief Lenny Harper told the Jersey Care inquiry he submitted files against officers in 2007, but the attorney general did not charge them.
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He said the police took possession of computers senior members of the IT Department "had bought on the police budgets with pornographic films on the computers and no charges were ever brought against them".
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Mr Harper, who led a two-year long police investigation starting in 2006 into historic child abuse in Jersey, also gave evidence about "a culture emerging in Jersey of systematic child abuse" which was "far worse" than a single paedophile ring.
He said: "Children were in effect being loaned out to people taken on yachting trips" and there were allegations of abuse taking place outside of territorial waters which were not dealt with properly by the police.
See also: Jersey abuse inquiry: Lenny Harper 'told not to return' to island

The Child Abuse Cover Up - A Police Whistleblower Speaks
In a courageous and explosive audio interview with UK Column "Despatches from the Front", a Metropolitan Police Detective Constable child protection specialist, takes the lid off the scale of child abuse, trafficking and prostitution in London and UK.

He exposes the lies, threats and intimidation used by the police, Local Authorities, Social Services, Politicians, Charities and others to protect Establishment figures and Westminster.

This criminal conspiracy seeks to deceive the public and stop the truth emerging in every possible way.
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A Britain run by those who protect child abusers and murders is shown to be the sickening reality, but a far more dangerous future lurks beneath the surface as this criminal British State, unchecked, grabs yet more power over families and children by the day.
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Post by Skeeve » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:48 pm

Far right reorganising for Tommy Robinson protests, say activists
The far right in the UK is mobilising itself around protests over the imprisonment of the former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson, a group of MPs, union leaders and political activists have said.


In a letter to the Guardian, they say a violent 15,000-strong far-right protest in support of Robinson in central London on 9 June raised concerns for those who value diversity.
I cant help but notice.
1 The Far Right?
Well, "the Guardian" says so, therefor they must be...after all we know the UK doesn't have any where near the fake news we have in :freedom:
2 15,000-strong
I am gratified to see the UK lame-stream media have learned to count beyond "hundreds," good show!

It remains to be seen if the protests materialize or not...
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Post by Skeeve » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:55 pm

Belfast City Hall protest: March and counter-demo planned for today
Protesters are holding a rally against an extremist march set for Belfast city centre later today.

The UK Freedom March is leaving Sandy Row in South Belfast at around 11.30am to march to City Hall “for a Pro-Brexit & Free-Speech Rally”, according to a Facebook post highlighting the event.

According to the Parades Commission determination giving the march the go-ahead its purpose is to “highlight Brexit and injustice in the UK”.

The determination also referred to a similar parade, on June 9, in support of high profile extremist Tommy Robinson, stating that “concerns were raised subsequently about the conduct of those participating the parade”.

They say that the organisers, understood to include Belfast councillor Jolene Bunting, have given assurances that “behaviours would be better managed than the previous parade”.

At least one person was seen giving a Nazi salute at the Free Tommy Robinson rally at City Hall.
Well, one person out of (we now agree) around 15,000...and of course that will be (has been) the photo-op & headlines....yep.
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Post by Skeeve » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:30 pm

'NOT WELCOME!' Shocking moment London Mayor Sadiq Khan is heckled with vile abuse by Tommy Robinson supporters
SADIQ Khan has been heckled with vile abuse and called a "jihadist" by far-right activists at a speech.


Yep Sadiq, this one is not going to go away anytime soon....Just ask Maajid.
You fuckers have been covering this shit up, and letting this go far too long for this to just "go away."

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Post by corplinx » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:32 am

I am glad to inform you that I visited the UK without getting raped by a grooming groom or being beheaded by Sharia law.

Two young pakistani gay men were buying frappucinos at the Starbucks in Liverpool and I thought "wow, I hope they know they'll be thrown off a building if I believe Breitbart about the islamification of the UK".

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Post by Giz » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:28 am

corplinx wrote:I am glad to inform you that I visited the UK without getting raped by a grooming groom or being beheaded by Sharia law.

Two young pakistani gay men were buying frappucinos at the Starbucks in Liverpool and I thought "wow, I hope they know they'll be thrown off a building if I believe Breitbart about the islamification of the UK".
Of all the places in the UK, you went to Liverpool?

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Post by corplinx » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:32 am

I visited liverpool for an evening.

Mostly I visit the Midlands and London.