Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

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Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 09, 2018 12:39 pm

Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Giz » Wed May 09, 2018 1:48 pm

You’ve boycotted Reason since the 1990’s?

Now you tell us!

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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 09, 2018 1:51 pm

Giz wrote:You’ve boycotted Reason since the 1990’s?

Now you tell us!


The NRA. :P
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Witness » Wed May 09, 2018 4:07 pm

Leaving the NRA aside, that's an interesting point: do the gun nuts lovers / squeamish pussies gun haters split along rep/dem?

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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Giz » Wed May 09, 2018 4:17 pm

Witness wrote:Leaving the NRA aside, that's an interesting point: do the gun nuts lovers / squeamish pussies gun haters split along rep/dem?

Rob will provide a 2D graphic R-D / gun feelings. :P


I think I've seen stats somewhere saying that there was a reasonably significant amount of pro-gun dems in the 1990's but they are insignificant nowadays. .. a sign of increasing tribalism?

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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 09, 2018 5:41 pm

Witness wrote:Leaving the NRA aside, that's an interesting point: do the gun nuts lovers / squeamish pussies gun haters split along rep/dem?


The current party lines do, but not historically.

For example Hubert H Humphrey was a big Second Amendment guy.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Grammatron » Wed May 09, 2018 5:49 pm

Witness wrote:Leaving the NRA aside, that's an interesting point: do the gun nuts lovers / squeamish pussies gun haters split along rep/dem?


Depends on a state.

Easy example: Vermont is liberal and mostly Democrat and pro-gun thus so was Bernie.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby gnome » Wed May 09, 2018 5:51 pm

Once upon a time I did a survey across a few of my favorite forums.

People that leaned conservative were pretty much unified in being against new legislation. Most thought even existing legislation went too far.

People that leaned liberal were all over the place on it.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 09, 2018 6:25 pm

Grammatron wrote:Easy example: Vermont is liberal and mostly Democrat and pro-gun thus so was Bernie.


Bernie is not a Real DemocratTM. :)
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 09, 2018 6:26 pm

The distrust of government tendency certainly crosses party lines.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby ed » Wed May 09, 2018 7:45 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:The distrust of government tendency certainly crosses party lines.


Dunno.

Seems the left is a hell of a lot more comfortable giving government power that would have terrified lefties of me youth.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby gnome » Wed May 09, 2018 8:03 pm

I think the comfort level may be less than you think--but I'd have to have an example to argue the case.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Giz » Wed May 09, 2018 8:13 pm

I think that in ed's youth, the government seen as culturally conservative; hence lefties were cautious about it having too much power.

Nowadays, the government and federal agencies are of a mind to do some regulation and social engineering, so it's the right who have their panties in a bunch

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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby ed » Wed May 09, 2018 8:15 pm

The existence of the FISA court, The notion that the first A. has limitations, the acceptance without noticeable demurr of legislation by executive fiat (both sides), the vast empowerment and militarization of LE

Stuff like that. These were serious issues back in the day, today, not so much. I see and increasing authoritarian tren on the left. Very troublesome. Particularly if the activities in europe are a bellwether.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby WildCat » Wed May 09, 2018 11:15 pm

Grammatron wrote:
Witness wrote:Leaving the NRA aside, that's an interesting point: do the gun nuts lovers / squeamish pussies gun haters split along rep/dem?


Depends on a state.

Easy example: Vermont is liberal and mostly Democrat and pro-gun thus so was Bernie.

Not any more. They went all ban ban ban a few months ago.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Mentat » Wed May 09, 2018 11:20 pm

The Democrats can't afford to be anti-gun rights any more, not that I see them moving in that direction. The brutality, deception, and violence by the far right in the past few years has repeatedly demonstrated the need for better personal defense. And law enforcement isn't that protection.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Grammatron » Wed May 09, 2018 11:22 pm

WildCat wrote:Not any more. They went all ban ban ban a few months ago.


I've missed it, what did they ban?
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby Pyrrho » Wed May 09, 2018 11:30 pm

THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE MY GUNS OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HANDS.

First I'll have to buy some guns though.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby WildCat » Wed May 09, 2018 11:40 pm

Grammatron wrote:
WildCat wrote:Not any more. They went all ban ban ban a few months ago.


I've missed it, what did they ban?

Rifle magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, pistol magazines that hold more than 15 rounds, bump stocks.
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Re: Is the NRA Too Republican to Effectively Advocate for Gun Rights?

Postby WildCat » Wed May 09, 2018 11:41 pm

Mentat wrote:The Democrats can't afford to be anti-gun rights any more, not that I see them moving in that direction. The brutality, deception, and violence by the far right in the past few years has repeatedly demonstrated the need for better personal defense. And law enforcement isn't that protection.

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