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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by sparks » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:33 am

"The point is, contrary to certain claims made earlier in this thread, a rifle can have other legitimate and lawful purposes besides killing people."

Name 2.


1. Practicing to kill something.
2. Killing something.

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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by xouper » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:00 am

xouper wrote:The point is, contrary to certain claims made earlier in this thread, a rifle can have other legitimate and lawful purposes besides killing people.
sparks wrote:Name 2.
I already did. But here they are again:
  1. Hunting.
  2. Sport and competition, or recreational shooting.
  3. Self defense.
  4. Collecting.
Fact: None of those have the intended purpose of killing anyone.

Fact: By far the most common legitimate and lawful purpose of a gun is for self defense, where the intended purpose is to save lives, not take them.

Fact: Law enforcement officers do not carry guns for the primary purpose of killing people. They carry guns for the primary purpose of deterrence and for self defense of themselves and others.

Does that answer your question?

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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by sparks » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:04 am

It's an answer.

Just not the right one.
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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by xouper » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:08 am

Cloverlief wrote:. . . about inanimate objects that only purpose is to kill
Again, that is factually incorrect.

Your claim that the only purpose of a gun is to kill people has been soundly refuted.

You have offered no evidence for your claim, nor have you refuted any of the substantial evidence against your claim, but instead you merely repeat your claim without justification. On a skeptic forum such as this one, that is not an acceptable or convincing argument.

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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by xouper » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:11 am

sparks wrote:It's an answer.

Just not the right one.
That is not a valid rebuttal to my answer.

In your opinion, what is the correct answer?

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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by sparks » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:13 am

I know that.
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Post by shemp » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:16 am

xouper wrote:
xouper wrote:The point is, contrary to certain claims made earlier in this thread, a rifle can have other legitimate and lawful purposes besides killing people.
sparks wrote:Name 2.
I already did. But here they are again:
  1. Hunting.
  2. Sport and competition, or recreational shooting.
  3. Self defense.
  4. Collecting.
Fact: None of those have the intended purpose of killing anyone.

Fact: By far the most common legitimate and lawful purpose of a gun is for self defense, where the intended purpose is to save lives, not take them.

Fact: Law enforcement officers do not carry guns for the primary purpose of killing people. They carry guns for the primary purpose of deterrence and for self defense of themselves and others.

Does that answer your question?
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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by Doctor X » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:06 am

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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by sparks » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:23 am

Indeed.

I'm a real asshole myself, and I know. :)
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Post by Doctor X » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:00 am

We have a bomb for that.

It is designed for target practice.

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Post by Rob Lister » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:42 am

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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by ed » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:58 am

xouper wrote:
xouper wrote:The point is, contrary to certain claims made earlier in this thread, a rifle can have other legitimate and lawful purposes besides killing people.
sparks wrote:Name 2.
I already did. But here they are again:
  1. Hunting.
  2. Sport and competition, or recreational shooting.
  3. Self defense.
  4. Collecting.
Fact: None of those have the intended purpose of killing anyone.

Fact: By far the most common legitimate and lawful purpose of a gun is for self defense, where the intended purpose is to save lives, not take them.

Fact: Law enforcement officers do not carry guns for the primary purpose of killing people. They carry guns for the primary purpose of deterrence and for self defense of themselves and others.

Does that answer your question?
Might add

- Farming. You can fire non-lethal animal control rounds. Ranchers use them to scare off birds from fruit trees or predators from livestock.

- Signaling for boats hikers and so on. Flares and other signaling rounds are widely available

- Zoology. Net rounds are used to capture winged critters. Same rounds are used to down drones.

- Theater/Entertainment. Hypocritical fuckers like Cloony :x

- Investment. There are some firearms in the vaults of banks that will never ever be fired.

Problem is that when the other side of the discussion has basically a religious calling, rationality is in short supply.
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Re: Fuck it, legalize it all!

Post by xouper » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:47 pm

ed wrote:Might add

- Farming. You can fire non-lethal animal control rounds. Ranchers use them to scare off birds from fruit trees or predators from livestock. . . .
I forgot about all those. Thanks.

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Post by xouper » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:00 pm

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:19 pm

Home deliveries of knives bought online to be banned in UK
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The delivery of knives bought online to private addresses is to be banned under a package of measures to tackle knife crime to be announced by the home secretary, Amber Rudd.

Knives bought online will in future have to be collected in person, with retailers responsible for checking that all buyers are 18 or older. New powers are also proposed for the police to seize banned weapons such as zombie knives, knuckledusters and throwing stars if they are found in someone’s home, and to arrest those involved.

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WTF zombie knives?
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Post by Giz » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:37 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Home deliveries of knives bought online to be banned in UK
Teh Gruniad (UK)
The delivery of knives bought online to private addresses is to be banned under a package of measures to tackle knife crime to be announced by the home secretary, Amber Rudd.

Knives bought online will in future have to be collected in person, with retailers responsible for checking that all buyers are 18 or older. New powers are also proposed for the police to seize banned weapons such as zombie knives, knuckledusters and throwing stars if they are found in someone’s home, and to arrest those involved.

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WTF zombie knives?
Seems to be “tactical” knives with green handles.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37080682

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:41 pm

In short, something "badass" looking (in a super-lame-o fanboy way) but otherwise not particularly more "stabby" than a chef's knife.

I don't suppose there are "zombie gangs" who go around wielding them in some "baddest part of town" part of the UK? :lmao:
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Post by Giz » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:46 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:In short, something "badass" looking (in a super-lame-o fanboy way) but otherwise not particularly more "stabby" than a chef's knife.

I don't suppose there are "zombie gangs" who go around wielding them in some "baddest part of town" part of the UK? :lmao:
They wouldn’t be seen dead wielding them.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:00 pm

I wouldn't think so, but I wouldn't have thought chavs were New York Yankees fans either, yet they are. 8)

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