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Re: News from Sweeden

Postby WildCat » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:40 pm

But but but that was officially declared fake news!
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Re: News from Sweeden

Postby Grammatron » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:44 pm

Don't you see WildCat, they never had "no go zones" until Trump alt-right white supremicist Russian bots spoke them into existence.
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Re: News from Sweeden

Postby Giz » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:57 pm

Grammatron wrote:https://www.apnews.com/438bb0ac98d04459ab2e392f3c4fc5ef/Merkel-says-Germany-has-'no-go-areas;'-gov't-won't-say-where

BERLIN (AP)

She added: “There are such areas and one has to call them by their name and do something about them.”


Uh huh. If I made a list of things where politicians say 'something will be done':
- Trump builds a wall and Mexico pays for it
- Theresa May successfully progresses Brexit negotiations for a whole week
- Merkel does something about "no go" areas (other than back pedal her comments)

Then Merkel, shockingly, appears the least likely to deliver.

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Re: News from Sweeden

Postby Skeeve » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:25 am

Giz wrote:
Grammatron wrote:https://www.apnews.com/438bb0ac98d04459ab2e392f3c4fc5ef/Merkel-says-Germany-has-'no-go-areas;'-gov't-won't-say-where

BERLIN (AP)

She added: “There are such areas and one has to call them by their name and do something about them.”


Uh huh. If I made a list of things where politicians say 'something will be done':
- Trump builds a wall and Mexico pays for it
- Theresa May successfully progresses Brexit negotiations for a whole week
- Merkel does something about "no go" areas (other than back pedal her comments)

Then Merkel, shockingly, appears the least likely to deliver.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel made a major concession to Europe's populist movement this week when she admitted the existence of so-called “no-go zones” in Germany.
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Despite evidence of the existence of areas in Western countries, European leaders and left-wing media commentators have long denied, and sometimes even mocked, those who claim that no-go zones exist.

But Merkel, who won Time Magazine's "Person of the Year" in 2015 in part because of her open-borders stance, mentioned their existence in an interview this week with German broadcaster n-tv as she called for a zero-tolerance policy on crime


Wow! A Feminist-Communist admits things are fucked up...I wonder why?
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Merkel has emerged bruised from a weaker-than-expected election result in the German federal elections in September. While her Christian Democrats emerged with the most votes, the rise of the right-wing and anti-migrant Alternative for Germany (AfD) ate into her party’s lead and left her scrambling for months for a coalition deal.

During the campaign, Merkel had sought to fend off criticism from the AfD and members of her own party by shifting to the right and taking a tougher stance on migration and Islamic immigration. In December 2016, she said that the 2015 migration surge “cannot, should not and must not be repeated.”

She appears to have succeeded, with her party now finalizing a drawn out negotiation with its former coalition partners -- the left-wing Social Democrats (SPD.) The SPD is currently voting on whether to enter a new coalition. If it does, it will allow a weakened Merkel to serve a fourth term as chancellor.

Should the SPD reject the deal, Merkel’s party will have to decide whether to form a minority government or call for new elections. The result of the SPD vote will be announced Sunday.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/03/01 ... rmany.html
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Re: News from Sweeden

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:14 pm

Dammit Skeeve, fix the spelling in the subject line! :evil:





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Re: News from Sweeden

Postby Skeeve » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:07 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Dammit Skeeve, fix the spelling in the subject line! :evil:

Pretty please? :)


Okay AA...Sweden it is....

Sweden's Nationalists Said They Had Nazi Ties. Now They Have A New Party.

A new party that formally launched in Stockholm on Monday hopes to capture the anti-immigrant vote in Sweden, potentially sparking a civil war on the far right that could derail support for its largest nationalist party.

Sweden’s elections in September will likely attract close attention from immigration opponents around the world. The number of immigrants Sweden accepted during the refugee crisis — 240,000 new arrivals to a country of just around 10 million between 2014 and 2015 — and Sweden’s progressive reputation has made it a favorite subject for right-wing media in the United States. That fervor broke into the mainstream media with the frenzy last spring began by President Donald Trump’s apparent allusion to a terrorist incident “last night in Sweden” that never occurred.

Inside Sweden, the immigration backlash created an opening for the Sweden Democrats (SD), a party that originally began out of skinhead and neo-Nazi circles in the 1990s. But it has purged many members who were caught flirting with neo-Nazism or white nationalism in a deliberate effort to break into the mainstream. Polls last year put the Sweden Democrats in second place, though it has now slipped into third with 16% of Swedes supporting it in recent polls as the center-right Moderate Party has also begun campaigning against immigration.

The new party’s name, Alternative for Sweden, echoes the German party Alternative für Deutschland. Last October, the AfD became the first far-right faction to enter Germany’s parliament since World War II. The leaders of Alternative for Sweden come from a faction ousted from the Sweden Democrats in 2015 after being accused of anti-Semitic comments and relationships with white nationalists. And the party’s launch is a sign that factions the Sweden Democrats are now shunning are organizing to stay players in nationalist politics.

"After eight years in parliament it is clear that SD is paralyzed — SD politicians are well-fed, comfortable and tired," said the new party’s leader, Gustav Kasselstrand during the launch event, which was attended by around 200 people and major Swedish news outlets at a dive bar in Stockholm. “I have paid a price for my convictions — I have been maligned and treated badly but I will never stop fighting..... Together we are an alternative for Sweden."


So will the Socialist/Feminist folks in charge stay in power, or be replaced?
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Re: News from Sweeden

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:15 pm

Skeeve wrote: ...

So will the Socialist/Feminist folks in charge stay in power, or be replaced?


Of course they will be replaced, the only question is by whom.

Not by Nazis of course. :Muhammad:
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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:33 pm

Swedish MP plans on emigrating to Hungary to escape immigration
The Local (Sweden)

A Swedish MP who was elected to the Riksdag as part of the anti-immigration Sweden Democrats and was recently removed from their list for the 2018 general election has revealed that he wants to become an immigrant in Hungary in order to escape immigration.

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Will they let in Swedes?

If so, will there be a massive wave of Swedes fleeing to Hungary?
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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Skeeve » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:19 pm

About 50 second in:
Mark Steyn wrote:Peoples perception of Sweden is about 40 years out of date...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS2f55vJjqI

Bu-bu-but, diversity is our strength!

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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Witness » Wed May 23, 2018 12:05 am

The Guardian wrote:Sweden distributes 'be prepared for war' leaflet to all 4.8m homes

The Swedish government has begun sending all 4.8m of the country’s households a public information leaflet telling the population, for the first time in more than half a century, what to do in the event of a war.

Om krisen eller kriget kommer (If crisis or war comes) explains how people can secure basic needs such as food, water and heat, what warning signals mean, where to find bomb shelters and how to contribute to Sweden’s “total defence”.

The 20-page pamphlet, illustrated with pictures of sirens, warplanes and families fleeing their homes, also prepares the population for dangers such as cyber and terror attacks and climate change, and includes a page on identifying fake news.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/21/sweden-distributes-be-prepared-for-war-cyber-terror-attack-leaflet-to-every-home

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Looks very cold war like. :shock:

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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Skeeve » Wed May 23, 2018 6:35 pm

Witness wrote:
The Guardian wrote:Sweden distributes 'be prepared for war' leaflet to all 4.8m homes

The Swedish government has begun sending all 4.8m of the country’s households a public information leaflet telling the population, for the first time in more than half a century, what to do in the event of a war.

Om krisen eller kriget kommer (If crisis or war comes) explains how people can secure basic needs such as food, water and heat, what warning signals mean, where to find bomb shelters and how to contribute to Sweden’s “total defence”.

The 20-page pamphlet, illustrated with pictures of sirens, warplanes and families fleeing their homes, also prepares the population for dangers such as cyber and terror attacks and climate change, and includes a page on identifying fake news.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/21/sweden-distributes-be-prepared-for-war-cyber-terror-attack-leaflet-to-every-home

See image here: https://i.imgur.com/pltW8zL.jpg[/img]

Looks very cold war like. :shock:
Left over from the cold war days perhaps?

Well then, perhaps throwing the feminist government out may help, or perhaps it is too late to make that change....anyway;
Support for anti-immigration Sweden Democrats grows ahead of Swedish election

Published by the daily Dagens Nyheter (DN), the Ipsos poll confirmed the Sweden Democrats' soaring popularity in recent months and the decline in support for the leading Social Democrats, which has lost one-fourth of its voters since the 2014 election.

With 20 percent in support, according to Ipsos, the far-right group is gaining on the conservative Moderates (22 percent) and is now only four points behind Prime Minister Stefan Löfven's Social Democrats (24 percent).

The poll suggests the Sweden Democrats are most popular among men (26 percent). Some are former Social Democrats voters attracted to the group's anti-immigration rhetoric.


The 2018 Swedish general election, scheduled for Sunday 9 September 2018, will elect the members of the Riksdag which in turn will elect the Prime Minister of Sweden.
(according to Wikipedia)
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Re: News from Sweden

Postby corplinx » Wed May 23, 2018 7:30 pm

Suppressing the truth about issues with immigration just creates more right wing nut jobs.

There will always be assimilation issues with a mass immigration wave, that's what happens. Hiding the truth just creates an ugly response.

That isn't to say the mass immigration isn't virtuous in intent or shouldn't be done. Just don't fucking cover up the issues with it. Own the fucking bill for the meal you ordered.

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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Witness » Thu May 24, 2018 2:34 am

Skeeve wrote:Left over from the cold war days perhaps?
That made me laugh!




Some lighter news:
The Independent wrote:Mother renames son after tattooist makes spelling error

A devastated mother whose tattooist misspelt her son’s name came up with an ingenious, and painless, solution – she renamed her child.

Johanna Giselhall Sandstrom asked a local tattoo artist in Kyrkhult, Sweden, to have the names of her two offspring inked onto her arm.

It was only when Ms Sandstrom returned home that she noticed her son Kevin had become “Kelvin”, despite the fact she was given the chance to review the design beforehand.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mother-renames-son-tattoo-spelling-mistake-kevin-kelvin-kyrkhult-sweden-a8353996.html

Parents are strange beasts. :mrgreen:

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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Skeeve » Thu May 24, 2018 1:20 pm

Witness wrote:
Skeeve wrote:Left over from the cold war days perhaps?
That made me laugh!
Honestly Witness, it looks like something from that time...anyway.

From your link...
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The 20-page pamphlet, illustrated with pictures of sirens, warplanes and families fleeing their homes, also prepares the population for dangers such as cyber and terror attacks and climate change, and includes a page on identifying fake news.
What?
Are they talking about the bullshit they would like to have the rest of the world believe?
Like, how life is just hunky-dory.
And there ain't no such thing as a "no go" zone in Sweden,
And "Muslim immigrant-rape-gangs and gang rapes" are over-blown rumors,
And police station bombings are just made-up stories that are reported on Fox News?
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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Skeeve » Thu May 31, 2018 12:40 am

This seems to have been made last November... posted in April...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXMZhJxceio

SO, a bit of buyers remorse on the whole "open boarders" thing?

Inquiring minds want to know!
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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Skeeve » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:29 pm

Sweden mobilises Home Guard for first time since 1975

Wow, are they going to take care of their Islamic Asian migrant problems?

“The idea behind this exercise is that we are now strengthening our military defence of the country,” Sweden’s Supreme Commander Micael Bydén told Sweden’s state broadcaster SVT. “Its part of my duty to ensure that we boost our operative capa
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"Home Guard soldiers are extremely loyal and I hope of course that as many as possible choose to take part in the exercise," he said in a statement. "The Home Guard's duties to protect and guard are fundamental to the ability of the rest of the Swedish Armed Forces to defend Sweden."

The Armed Forces hope that the exercise will show potential aggressors that Sweden’s defence capabilities are ready and functional, and increase citizens’ faith that they are well-protected.

Bydén said that it was necesary to increase Sweden’s defence capabilities because the security environment around Sweden had gone “in the wrong direction”.
Well, perhaps a feminist government was not such a great idea after all...I guess we'll see...
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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Skeeve » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:00 pm

Swedish Cop Grilled for Calling Gang Rape Migrant-Related 'Cultural Phenomenon'

Swedish police officer Peter Springare, who gained global recognition after drawing attention for nailing the extent of migrant crime to the wall in Sweden, has been reported to the police and is likely to be investigated by his own colleagues for arguing that his nation's ballooning rape problem was linked to migration, the newspaper Aftonbladet reported.

During a lecture at the People's House at Hisingen in Gothenburg in early February, Springare called gang rape a "new trend" that had emerged as a consequence of the last 12 to 15 years of immigration. In a video obtained by the Swedish channel TV4, Springare also described gang rape as a "cultural phenomenon."
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Widespread accusations of racism prompted a police investigation of him "inciting racial hatred," which was later dropped. Springare himself retorted that things get very bad when you are no longer able to discuss immigrant crime without being labeled "racist."
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​The true extent of migrant crime, including rape, remains largely unknown in Sweden, as the government has deliberately refused to publish statistics on criminals' ethnicity for over a decade.

According to a 2000 report from the Crime Prevention Council (Brå), before mass-scale immigration, immigrants accounted for 42 percent of gang rapes in Sweden, TV4 reported.
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In 2017, an average of about 20 rapes per day was reported in the Nordic country with the world's first "feminist government," bringing the annual total to 7,230, according to Expressen daily.
Oh Peter, don't call them "migrants", call them "Asians." like they do in the UK.

...what too soon?
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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Skeeve » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:10 pm

Majority of Swedes positive about immigration: study
The study by The Migration Studies Delegation (Delmi) and Novus which was carried out in 2014, 2015 and 2016, also showed that the economic impact of immigration is seen to be positive in Sweden.
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At the same time, a clear majority of Swedes surveyed had a negative view of cultural clashes and agreed with the statement that immigrants too often have "customs and traditions that do not fit into Swedish society".
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The results showed Swedes were more positive about immigration from Europe and North America, and negative about immigration from Africa and the Middle East.
Okay...but it begs the question, how many people from "Europe and North America" are actually moving to Sweden...

Support for anti-immigration Sweden Democrats grows ahead of Swedish election
Published by the daily Dagens Nyheter (DN), the Ipsos poll confirmed the Sweden Democrats' soaring popularity in recent months and the decline in support for the leading Social Democrats, which has lost one-fourth of its voters since the 2014 election.

With 20 percent in support, according to Ipsos, the far-right group is gaining on the conservative Moderates (22 percent) and is now only four points behind Prime Minister Stefan Löfven's Social Democrats (24 percent).

The poll suggests the Sweden Democrats are most popular among men (26 percent). Some are former Social Democrats voters attracted to the group's anti-immigration rhetoric.
My guess; there are probably more folks from the middle east and Africa coming to Sweden, than there are from the EU or North America...
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Re: News from Sweden

Postby Skeeve » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm

Article from January of this year...interesting considering what has happened since...
Sweden To Deploy Army In No-Go Zones, Publishes Leaflets Preparing People For War
Sweden will do whatever it takes” to end a wave of gang violence that has swept throughout the country, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said on Wednesday, according to Reuters.

The idea of getting the military involved in resolving the issue of ‘no-go’ zones within Sweden’s cities, where a large majority of migrants reside, was floated when Sweden’s political leaders debated how to combat problems with gang crime in the country.

With the country’s center-right and right-wing media referring to the crisis as the ‘Sweden civil war,’ the police department’s inability to cope with more than 300 reported shootings last year seems to be going in their favor.
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“This is the new Sweden; the new, exciting dynamic, multicultural paradise that so many here in this assembly … have fought to create for so many years,” Sweden Democrat leader Jimmie Akesson sarcastically said during his address to the parliament. Akesson referred to the high numbers of migrants from Central and North Africa, as well as Syria, that have arrived in Sweden thanks to the country’s liberal immigration laws and generous welfare system.

Since then, "cold war" leaflets have been distributed (well, they were in stock so...), Sweden has begun to curtail immigration (from the Middle east and north-Africa),
and they have activated the Home Guard...okay back to the article.
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The Swedish government, along with the organizations that are tasked with working on the release of the pamphlet, says that it’s nothing more than a precaution. The timing, however, suggests that there’s a pretty destabilizing period waiting up ahead.

While the increase in Russian military presence in the Baltic region cannot be disputed, many people in Sweden feel that Russia is used as a scapegoat by both the government and the state-run media.

With no direct or open disputes between Russia and Sweden, and various Swedish ministers and government spokespersons referring to a threat the country “perceives” is coming from Kremlin, saying that there’s more to the Sweden civil war threat might not be that far removed from the truth.

IMHO, this may go either way, but it looks as if Sweden is beginning to fight back...
which may or may not be too late...we'll see.
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