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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby WildCat » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:14 pm

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Nearly 100 members of the notoriously violent MS-13 street gang were among the young immigrants admitted into the U.S. under the classification of “unaccompanied minor” during the past 11 months, according to recent government data.
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“Ninety-nine individuals arrested during this operation crossed the border as unaccompanied minors, all of which were confirmed as MS-13 gang members,” the ICE statement read.
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And that's out of about 24,000 who came during that period, which translates to a murder rate of... 412.5/100,000. About 85 times the murder rate of the USA as a whole, and that's just the ones who were caught. Remember that the next time illegal immigration advocates bullshit about how "immigrants" have lower crime rates than Americans.


Not sure how you arrive at that number.

Which number?
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby WildCat » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:17 pm

Giz wrote:As a legal immigrant, I find the conflation of [legal] immigrants have low crime rates, with illegal or total immigrant crime rates to be particularly irritating.

That's what they do, in hopes that it will fool people who don't realize how they flip back and forth between legal and illegal immigration. The "immigrants have lower crime rates than Americans" is only true for legal immigrants. And for obvious reasons, those with criminal records aren't allowed to immigrate in the first place so we're selecting only the law-abiding.
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby Anaxagoras » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:28 pm

WildCat wrote:Which number?


The murder rate of course.
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby WildCat » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:56 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
WildCat wrote:Which number?


The murder rate of course.

99 murderers out of 24,000 unaccompanied minors over 1 year (actually just 11 months according to the story) is 412.5/100,000 by my math.

How does it work out in your math?
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:01 am

WildCat wrote:
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WildCat wrote:Which number?


The murder rate of course.

99 murderers out of 24,000 unaccompanied minors over 1 year (actually just 11 months according to the story) is 412.5/100,000 by my math.

How does it work out in your math?


That was 99 gang members not 99 murders.
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby WildCat » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:06 am

Anaxagoras wrote:That was 99 gang members not 99 murders.

D'oh! I read "murderers" instead of "members". :oops:
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby Pyrrho » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:10 am

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/justi ... s-eyebrow/

Trudeau's eyebrows may look strange in this video, but that phenomenon appears to be the result of lighting, not follicular fakery.

Trudeau’s eyebrow supposedly “falls off” in the middle of a news conference, yet the Canadian PM doesn’t acknowledge or react to it (even though it would certainly be a moment of supreme embarrassment for him), he is never seen “reattaching” his eyebrow, and he continues to talk on camera for several more minutes without his eyebrows coming (further) unglued.

Several other images from the news conference also show that Trudeau’s eyebrows were, in fact, appropriately positioned on his face:
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby WildCat » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:59 am

Pyrrho wrote:https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/justin-trudeaus-eyebrow/

Trudeau's eyebrows may look strange in this video, but that phenomenon appears to be the result of lighting, not follicular fakery.

Trudeau’s eyebrow supposedly “falls off” in the middle of a news conference, yet the Canadian PM doesn’t acknowledge or react to it (even though it would certainly be a moment of supreme embarrassment for him), he is never seen “reattaching” his eyebrow, and he continues to talk on camera for several more minutes without his eyebrows coming (further) unglued.

Several other images from the news conference also show that Trudeau’s eyebrows were, in fact, appropriately positioned on his face:

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It sure looks like it's falling off in the still photo they offer as "proof". Except in the shaking hands pic, which presumably took place before the glue came loose.
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:42 am

I think it's actually just a particularly dark shadow, fwiw.
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby WildCat » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:58 am

Anaxagoras wrote:I think it's actually just a particularly dark shadow, fwiw.

I think the shadow explanation is complete bullshit. An eyebrow cannot leave a shadow with light space between the eyebrow and the "shadow". And you can see his actual eyebrow above it, and it is both thinner and lighter than the "shadow". It's like when the Air Force would tell people who saw the new SR71 spy plane that they saw a weather balloon.
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby corplinx » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:30 am

Sometimes a glued on eyebrow is just a glued on eyebrow.

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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:48 am

Suit yourselves.
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby corplinx » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:04 am

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Different angle, higher res, same lighting trick?

Eyebrow deniers man.... fucking racists I guess.

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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby corplinx » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:05 am

It looks like his barber trimmed them too close and so they stole Bert's to keep him from looking silly.

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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby Anaxagoras » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:08 am

Sorry guys, Snopes says you're wrong. You lose.
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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby corplinx » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:28 am

https://youtu.be/FUP_vQoDALI

Snopes, weighed in. This video is just showing you a trick of the light. GODDAMMIT. SNOPES ARE EXPERTS ON EVERYTHING

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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby corplinx » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:32 am

Image

He was weird eyebrows that warp under his browbones and it really was shadows. The truth is that it was just shadows and shitlords. The funny part was CNN covering the controversy. :D

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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby Doctor X » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:21 am

No, Anax is just swallowing the Official Explanation!

IF you look carefully, in that clip, you can see a hat fly by.

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Re: FakeNews Ongoing

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:25 am

corplinx wrote:The funny part was CNN covering the controversy. :D


Almost.

The funny part is it being a controversy. :roll:


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