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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby shuize » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:54 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Just one of many instances of the left wing (so self designated) being a suicide cult.

I think it originates as some kind of extreme virtue signaling.

"See, I'm so 'woke' that I can look past their desire to kill me to sympathize with their 'oppression.'"

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:15 am

The problem with "virtue signalling" as an explanation is that it does not explain why certain things are held t be virtues.

And while the term "virtue signalling" may be cogent if taken literally in certain contexts, it has the drawback of being psychobabble.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby gnome » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:44 am

I will dispute none of that. It is, indeed, a stretch and I will acknowledge it.
Just my being pedantic that it is not a strict inconsistency.

My personal take--I mostly side with Israel. That does not mean I agree with all their actions.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:52 am

gnome wrote:My personal take--I mostly side with Israel. That does not mean I agree with all their actions.


Fair enough -- but a very different proposition from being "queer for Palestine".

For that matter, there's no reason in principle a gay man can't possibly hate Israel. That too is a very different proposition from being "queer for Palestine".

I wouldn't care to associate with such a person, but I would not say ipso facto a suicide cultist.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Mentat » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:41 am

First off, "Virtue signalling" means you don't believe in it. A person's personal views and position cannot be "virtue signalling" by definition, it's just something you pretend to be for some ulterior motive. So stop repeating alt-right memes because of this mid-life crisis infatuation with being part of the in-crowd of edgy racist antisemetic fuckwits. Especially so close to the anniversary where many good men gave their lives to kill the predecessor ideology of these fuckwits.

Second, there's a huge difference between endorsing a people's views and not wanting over-the-top violence to be committed against them.

Thirdly, I find it hugely hypocritical for the same people to criticize Palestine for having the same sexist, homophopic, racist views and violent attitudes they happily support at home. The same people who are very much part of a "suicide cult" indeed.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Grammatron » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:11 am

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Anaxagoras » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:24 am

Grammatron wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling


The section on "pejorative usage" seems to be the relevant one for this discussion.

Everyone (almost everyone) "virtue signals" in the academic sense. If you care at all about your reputation (and almost everyone does, save a few people who seem to take pleasure in being hated, feared and despised) you will do some things to protect, improve or enhance your reputation. It's not automatically a bad thing per se.

The pejorative sense is a kind of empty, low-risk sort of virtue signaling. Like taking a safe, uncontroversial position on an issue. Or one that the people you want to suck up to agree with. Was Chipotle's "GMO-free" policy a sort of virtue signalling? I think it's an example of image over reality. There's not anything wrong with GMO foods per se, there's just a popular perception that non-GMO is somehow more "virtuous".
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Doctor X » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:45 am

Anaxagoras wrote:If you care at all about your reputation (and almost everyone does, save a few people who seem to take pleasure in being hated, feared and despised)


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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:11 pm

Whatever it may have once meant "Virtue signalling" is a phrase that has been undefined (in the postmodernist sense). It now means nothing.

What throws people off is that it was not left wingers who did the undefining this time.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Grammatron » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:16 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Whatever it may have once meant "Virtue signalling" is a phrase that has been undefined (in the postmodernist sense). It now means nothing.

What throws people off is that it was not left wingers who did the undefining this time.


It means something different to certain groups, but the phrase is not without meaning.
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby shuize » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:51 pm

Mentat wrote:First off, "Virtue signalling" means you don't believe in it. A person's personal views and position cannot be "virtue signalling" by definition, it's just something you pretend to be for some ulterior motive ...

The Urban Dictionary defines virtue signaling as follows:

"To take a conspicuous but essentially useless action ostensibly to support a good cause but actually to show off how much more moral you are than everybody else."

I suspect those "Queers for Palestine" like the idea of supporting Palestine but like the idea of showing how much more "woke" and moral they are than everyone else even more.

Second, there's a huge difference between endorsing a people's views and not wanting over-the-top violence to be committed against them.

So when they hold silly flags that say "Queers for Palestine" I should not read that to mean they are actually "for" Palestine or anything.

Thirdly, I find it hugely hypocritical for the same people to criticize Palestine for having the same sexist, homophopic, racist views and violent attitudes they happily support at home. The same people who are very much part of a "suicide cult" indeed.

Not baking a wedding cake for a gay wedding. Throwing gay men off roofs. Same. Same. Got it.

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Witness » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:18 am


The girls look somehow unhappy. :mrgreen:


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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Skeeve » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:59 am

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The girls look somehow unhappy. :mrgreen:
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby WildCat » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:58 pm

Former Evergreen State faculty member Bret Weinstein testifies before Congress on May 22 about the riots and the state of free speech on campus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRIKJCKWla4
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Witness » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:05 pm

WildCat wrote:Former Evergreen State faculty member Bret Weinstein testifies before Congress on May 22 about the riots and the state of free speech on campus:
Am I the only one under the impression, after watching this vid, that the congresscritters haven't done their homework? Imprecise, meandering, very basic questions… :?

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:12 pm

Witness wrote: ... the congresscritters haven't done their homework? Imprecise, meandering, very basic questions ... :?


Merely a matter of low IQ.

I'll leave it to others to determine whether this is genetic. :BigGrin3:
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby WildCat » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:43 am

Witness wrote:
WildCat wrote:Former Evergreen State faculty member Bret Weinstein testifies before Congress on May 22 about the riots and the state of free speech on campus:
Am I the only one under the impression, after watching this vid, that the congresscritters haven't done their homework? Imprecise, meandering, very basic questions… :?

You must be new to watching these things?
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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby Doctor X » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:34 am

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Re: The SJW war on us thread

Postby shuize » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:14 am


Well, in fairness, Johnson was probably drunk at the time. And Guam is pretty small ...

Ha. Ha. Just kidding. He's an idiot.

But the sad thing is, even if he wasn't drunk, he is still an improvement over that dingbat Cynthia McKinney.


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