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Re: Cuba

Post by Doctor X » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:06 pm

They should have sent someone who is SMART, not like people say, like dumb.

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Re: Cuba

Post by Skeeve » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:24 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:The old "mob" really is gone, despite a few tattered remnants in places like Bensonhurst. But of course there will always be a "mob" in the larger sense.

In Cuba at the present time it is the Communist Party. Tourism is a way they make money. If the embargo is lifted it will still be so.
The 2014/2015 Cuba Travel season has officially ended. We would like to thank all of our tour participants for making this our best year. The improving US/Cuba relations seems to have put travel to Cuba on the radar screen for many Americans. It is about time that US travelers learn to appreciate their friendly neighbor just 90 miles away.
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We anticipate that the 2015/2016 season will be even bigger than this year. It is now time to plan for fall and winter tours to Cuba. The hotels and flights will be much more difficult to secure due to the easing of travel restrictions and greater awareness by Americans. If you are considering a trip to Cuba please contact us soon so we can make all of the arrangements.
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Re: Cuba

Post by Witness » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:58 am

BBC News wrote:The problem of Cuba football defections

US-Cuba relations may have entered a new era with the opening of embassies but defections to the US seem to be on the rise.

Cuba's national football team was knocked out of the Gold Cup at the weekend but the team's return flight from the US will have a few extra spaces.

At least four players have defected since the tournament kicked off on 7 July. Maybe more.
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The defecting players are taking advantage of a policy known as "wet foot, dry foot" which, despite warming relations, remains in place.

The policy, which has been in effect since 1995, allows Cuban nationals who reach US land to stay and apply for residency - immigrants who are picked up by authorities at sea are not.

The policy has drawn the ire of the Cuban delegation during historic talks that have taken place over the past few months, and has been the scourge of Cuban sports teams for quite a while longer.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33598736

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Re: Cuba

Post by Doctor X » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:11 am

Here I am thinking "why would the NFL be interested in them?"

This just in: Canada has officially protested the US granting of asylum to curling competitors. . . .

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Re: Cuba

Post by Skeeve » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:33 pm

5 New Ways for Americans to Book Trips to Cuba
Flights, ferries, and cruise packages between the U.S. and the formerly off-limits island nation are popping up left and right.

Ever since the federal government announced new rules for visiting Cuba in early 2015, opening up the possibility of Cuban tourism for a broad range of Americans, eager travelers have been instructed to be patient. The tourism infrastructure in Cuba is limited, and airline and tour operations needed time to figure out the logistics of the nation opening up to Americans for the first time in half a century.

Now that a few months have passed since the big policy change was announced, we are starting to see more and more ways for Americans to visit Cuba. Here are a handful of new developments:
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Re: Cuba

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Re: Cuba

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:24 am

And the last [meaningful] vestige of the rediculum that was the embargo is lifted, so long as your willing to lie a little.

Obama ... and lifts financial restrictions on Havana
The new rules mean Americans will be allowed to visit Cuba on their own, instead of on expensive group tours, as long as they declare that the trip is to learn about Cuban people and culture.
http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-ame ... story.html

It is a bit convoluted as to how he did it. I like the result but don't care much for the means. He essentially circumvented congress, and the law, with his unilateral lifting of the restriction. One [idiot and/or profoundly hypocritical] congress-critter but it thus ...
“These unilateral actions will further prop up a communist regime in Cuba that has a long record of brutal human rights abuses,” said Rep. Ed Royce (R., Calif.), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. “Instead of ignoring the law to hand more one-sided concessions to an oppressive regime, President Obama should be working with Congress to stand with the Cuban people who long for freedom.”


Well I agree that he overstepped his authority. I suppose Mr. Royce can draw up some impeachment articles if he so wishes. Fact is, Royce is probably all for this but can't say that publicly.

Anyway, it is done.

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Re: Cuba

Post by ed » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:42 am

He essentially circumvented congress, and the law
and this is a good thing why?

Is this support for a benevolent dictatorship of some sort?
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Re: Cuba

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:50 am

ed wrote:
He essentially circumvented congress, and the law
and this is a good thing why?

Is this support for a benevolent dictatorship of some sort?
The sentence just prior to the one you quoted ...
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Re: Cuba

Post by ed » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:37 pm

you are an enabler of foreign born Muslim despots.
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Re: Cuba

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:42 pm

ed wrote:you are an enabler of foreign born Muslim despots.
Nay, nay, Mooseface. With the end of the embargo comes the end of the wet/dry feet policy on Cuban Immigration. And with that comes more illegals to skim the scum from your swanky lake at very low prices indeed. You should thank me.

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Re: Cuba

Post by ed » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:58 pm

or be food for my new genetically engineered denizen.

Yes, I see the logic.
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Re: Cuba

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:38 pm

It's clear the embargo, however much sense it seemed to make in 1960, is not an effective way to dislodge Castro.

As evil regimes go, Cuba is in the same league with plenty of countries we trade with, including Communist ones.

Now about that military occupation of Japan ...
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Re: Cuba

Post by Skeeve » Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:00 pm

After Reaching Out His Hand, President Obama Will Step Foot In Cuba
When Obama walks off Air Force One onto the red carpet at Jose Marti airport in Havana Sunday, he'll be taking another big step towards normal relations with the island, and kicking another hole in the wall of isolation that the U.S. spent decades trying to build around Cuba.

"The Cold War has been over for a long time," Obama said, before his historic handshake with Cuban President Raul Castro in Panama last year. "I'm not interested in having battles that, frankly, started before I was born."

Obama will be the first American president to visit Cuba since Calvin Coolidge arrived on a battleship in 1928. (Harry Truman dropped by during a Caribbean cruise 20 years later, but didn't go beyond the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay.)
Obama's schedule for historic trip
SUNDAY

• Arrival at Jose Marti International Airport in Havana, 4:50 p.m.
• Meet-and-greet at U.S. Embassy, 5:50 p.m.
• Family sight-seeing in Old Havana, including the Catedral de San Cristobal de la Habana, 6:40 p.m.

MONDAY

• Wreath-laying at the José Marti Memorial, morning
• Official welcoming ceremony, Palace of the Revolution, morning
• Meeting with Cuban President Raul Castro, morning
• Entrepreneurship summit, afternoon
• State Dinner at the Palace of the Revolution, evening

TUESDAY

• Address to the Cuban people at El Gran Teatro de Havana, morning
• Meeting with dissidents and civil society leaders, morning
• Baseball have between the Tampa Bay Rays at Cuban National Team at Estadio Latinoamericano, 2 p.m.
• Departure from Jose Marti International Airport en route to Buenos Aires, Argentina, afternoon
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Re: Cuba

Post by corplinx » Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:02 pm

The post-Clinton state department has been a great success. ::cough::

Anyway, kudos Barry.

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Re: Cuba

Post by Laura Bush » Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:22 am

Spent a week in Havana in '98. Guys in the street playing baseball, facing pitched fastballs while actually using their arm as the baseball bat. No shit. Definitely light on equipment.

That rapid-fire lisped Caribbean Spanish fucking hard to understand.

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Re: Cuba

Post by Doctor X » Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:03 am

All the people Castro murdered do not matter before Obama's need to find a legacy.

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Re: Cuba

Post by Skeeve » Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:29 am

trust baby wrote:All the people Castro murdered do not matter before Obama's need to find a legacy.
--J.D.
All the people murdered in China did not matter before Nixon's need to find a legacy,
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Some 1.5 million people were killed during the Cultural Revolution, and millions of others suffered imprisonment, seizure of property, torture or general humiliation. The Cultural Revolution’s short-term effects may have been felt mainly in China’s cities, but its long-term effects would impact the entire country for decades to come.
or corporate America's need to find cheep labor.

Is Cuba really that much different?
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Re: Cuba

Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:13 pm

Rolling Stones play free gig in Havana:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba- ... SKCN0WR1B7
The Rolling Stones rocked a massive crowd at a free, outdoor concert in Havana on Friday, capping a week of engagement with the West for the Communist-led country that once censored the veteran British band's music.

The Stones started their first-ever show in Cuba with "Jumpin' Jack Flash," a song recorded in 1968, when Cuban rock fans were secretly sharing pirated vinyl records and risked being sent to rural work brigades to cure "ideological deviation."

"We know that years back it was hard to hear our music in Cuba, but here we are playing. I also think the times are changing," lead singer Mick Jagger said in Spanish to a roar from the crowd.

The singer spoke in Spanish throughout of the 18-song show of hits that lasted more than two hours. The band played "Sympathy for the Devil" as a yellow moon rose through clouds, and they finished a two-song encore with "Satisfaction."

Fans started gathering 18 hours ahead of time at Havana's Sports City football and baseball fields, including Cubans who traveled from across the Caribbean's largest island and foreigners who flew in for the occasion.

While no official estimate was immediately available for the crowd size, Cuban state media estimated half a million people could fit in the venue, which was nearly full.

The audience ranged from teenagers to pensioners and reserved some of the biggest cheers for Jagger's snakey dance moves.

"I love Mick Jagger so much. I've always dreamed about this. I couldn't sleep knowing he would be here," said Angela Menendez, who cleans floors in a hospital.

Security was low key and there was a noticeable absence of would-be entrepreneurs selling T-shirts or memorabilia.

People were dressed in all manner of jeans, T-shirts and boots with the Stones' tongue and lips logo.
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