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Re: Pot shops in Denver to open for business tomorrow

Post by Rob Lister » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:37 am

Anaxagoras wrote:It really is time for congress to change federal law on marijuana.
We have to wait for a few more states. 5 more (including Virginia) will happen this year for Medical stuff. Republican's have to wait until they know 1) their voters will kick them out because of it and 2) their investments in the business (i.e. cornering that market) are solid.

Call me cynical but I'm betting they're all vested now.

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Post by Witness » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:08 am

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette wrote:Testing for tainted marijuana is challenging states

WASHINGTON — People don’t just smoke marijuana. They vaporize it, bake it into brownies, use it in eye drops, and rub extracts of it onto their skin. Some people use the drug as medicine, others for the fun of getting high.

In states that have legalized pot, regulators have struggled to make sure the bewildering array of products on dispensary shelves are safe to consume. States where the drug has been legally sold for several years such as Colorado, Oregon and Washington are still trying to figure out standards and laboratory testing rules for potential toxins such as pesticides, solvents and mold.

“The big challenge with this industry is the speed at which it innovates and evolves,” said Danica Lee, director of public health inspections for the city of Denver. “It continues to be a bit of an adventure.”

The link between illness and tainted marijuana isn’t well established.
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Lori Ajax, California’s chief of cannabis regulation, said last year that writing regulations for lab testing was probably the biggest challenge her team faced in writing medical marijuana regulations. The medical marijuana rules have since been folded into rules for the adult use market, which opens Jan. 1.

State regulators have had no guidance from the federal agencies that usually set health and safety standards for agriculture, food and medicine because the federal government considers marijuana to be illegal. They have been hampered by the fact that there’s little research on how marijuana tainted with potential toxins affects humans, partly because the federal government funds limited marijuana research.

And they’ve also had to adjust testing regulations to reflect the costs and amount of tests fledgling legal marijuana markets can handle.
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Post by Skeeve » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:41 pm

US attorney throws future of legal pot in Mass. into doubt
The state’s top federal prosecutor on Monday refused to rule out a crackdown on the voter-authorized marijuana industry, prompting howls from advocates and politicians and moving Massachusetts to the forefront of the battle between the Trump administration and the dozens of states where cannabis is legal.
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The pronouncement followed US Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ decision last week to grant regional federal prosecutors broader discretion to enforce the longstanding national prohibition on cannabis, which the Obama administration had limited in states that have approved the drug for recreational or medical use.

Lelling’s statement — which struck a more aggressive tone than those from other federal prosecutors and comes as the state prepares for the debut of recreational pot sales — was released hours after the sponsors of 2016’s successful marijuana legalization initiative called on him to clarify his intentions under the new policy.
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A congressional budget rider bars the Department of Justice from spending money on most prosecutions of state-licensed medical marijuana operations, meaning the state’s currently operating dispensaries should be safe for now.

However, that amendment is due to expire later this month along with the current federal budget. Sessions previously called on Congress to drop the language.
That is only medical, not recreational.

I wonder if some congress critters will lose seats over this, one way or the other....
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Post by Skeeve » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:25 am

Paul Waldman: Why Jeff Sessions' marijuana crackdown is going to make legalization more likely

Hrm...given how recalcitrant many politicians (Feinstein for example) are about it, that is a tad premature...

Still, he may just push them to either "shit or get off the pot."
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“It does open up the opportunity for the rogue U.S Attorney who’s not about protecting the public but is more about an ideological opposition to legalization,” Todd said, “to prove that legalization doesn’t work by creating chaos and disruption.”

Even if that doesn’t happen, or happens only here and there, the Trump administration has sent a clear message to the public that it wants to turn back the clock on our nation’s drug laws. There’s no doubt that Jeff Sessions is sincere in his desire to do so, but politically it could be a disaster. According to the latest Gallup poll, 64 percent of Americans favor legalization, including a majority of Republicans.
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Post by Skeeve » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:46 pm

Jeff Sessions' War On Pot Goes to Court, Attorney General Will Fight 12-Year-Old With Epilepsy
A 12-year-old suing the federal government may have a whiff of adorableness. But for Alexis Bortell, who filed a lawsuit against Attorney General Jeff Sessions last fall, it's a choice she had to make to save her life. Bortell has epilepsy and Sessions has made it his mission to make it impossible for her to access the only drug that has kept her seizures at bay: cannabis.
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Three years ago, Alexis began taking medical marijuana and her seizures disappeared. But that treatment option is threatened by an aggressive federal crackdown on medicinal cannabis led by Sessions, who is also the acting director of the Drug Enforcement Agency.

Her day in court—February 14, at a New York City federal courthouse—is fast approaching. Alexis won't be there in person, but her lawyer, Michael Hiller, thinks the ruling will go their way.

"We are very optimistic that the case is going to come out the way it should, which is that the Controlled Substances Act is going to be found unconstitutional," Hiller said.
I wish her and her lawyers all the luck....
It would be ironic if the court does what congress has (so far) not had the gumption to do....
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:49 pm

Weirdly, despite Session's promised crackdown, our legislature went ahead and laid the legal groundwork to make home delivery pot legal in Nevada. With a special license.

If they had an option where the delivery person could swing by Taco Bell on the way over, they'd have a "can't lose" service.

I meant that as a joke, but it makes me want to see about how to get one of those special licenses...
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Post by Grammatron » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:12 pm

Legalization of weed in California has been great.

But we can't have a functional legal system where we have some laws that we follow and some laws that we ignore.

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Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:32 pm

For some reason, despite the fact that a large portion of the public favors legalization, our congress critters can't grow the balls to actually vote for it. I know alcohol and casino intrests lobbied strongly against legalization in Nevada, as did police organizations. I suspect that those same interests are waving a shitload of money in front of Congress people's faces to keep it illegal on a national level. And as long as that is true, it doesn't matter what the public in general wants
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Post by Skeeve » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:38 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:For some reason, despite the fact that a large portion of the public favors legalization, our congress critters can't grow the balls to actually vote for it. I know alcohol and casino intrests lobbied strongly against legalization in Nevada, as did police organizations. I suspect that those same interests are waving a shitload of money in front of Congress people's faces to keep it illegal on a national level. And as long as that is true, it doesn't matter what the public in general wants
Well, maybe that is changing...

Pot Showdown: How Congress Is Uniting to Stop Jeff Sessions' War on Drugs

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Pro-pot lawmakers in the nation's capital spent much of last year fighting behind the scenes to protect their state's legal marijuana industries, but now the cannabis fight is out in the open after Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced he's unwinding the Obama-era guidance that directed U.S. Attorneys to not go after marijuana businesses in states that legalized it.

"It was a surprise," Representative Jared Polis (D-CO) tells Rolling Stone. "It leaves the liberty of consumers up to 93 U.S. Attorneys who on a whim could engage in enforcement action against activities that are legal and regulated by states."

Lawmakers of all stripes are now searching for their best outlets to combat the actions of the attorney general who they see as rogue on this issue – just two years ago, then-candidate Donald Trump said marijuana laws should be left to the states. With nearly 29 states and the District of Columbia having legalized some form of marijuana, one would think there would be enough bipartisan consensus to pass a federal bill to tie Sessions' hands, but, according to Polis, "the legislative process is very slow, so we need to do something sooner."
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But it's not just Democrats leading the charge. Republicans have historically placed states' rights above encroachment by the federal government. So a handful of Republicans have been left scratching their heads now that a Republican administration is attempting to clamp down on their local, legal industries.

"That's what we just don't understand. That's what I think the ambiguity is right now that we need some clarification on," Senator Cory Gardner (R-CO) tells Rolling Stone. The lawmaker is furious with Sessions because during his confirmation Gardner was assured by his former Senate colleague from Alabama "that marijuana would not be a priority for this administration," according to Gardner.

After the announcement from Sessions, Gardner vowed to use any procedural tool at his disposal to block Department of Justice nominees until the attorney general stands by his commitment to not prioritize marijuana prosecutions.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:40 pm

It's not the most falsifiable of predictions, i know, but I predict I will go to my grave and it will still be illegal on a federal level. Lots of moneyed interests want it that way and money talks
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:06 pm

Meanwhile in California ...

San Diego Girl Scout Sells Over 300 Boxes of Cookies in 6 Hours Outside Marijuana Shop (KTLA-TV)
The legalization of California’s marijuana industry and start of Girl Scout cookie sales have created an opportune moment for at least one San Diego girl.

A photo posted on Instagram by San Diego marijuana dispensary Urbn Leaf showed a girl scout with an armful of cookies in front of a Mission Bay storefront.

“Get some Girl Scout Cookies with your GSC today until 4 p.m.! Have a friend that wants to #tagalong? Bring them with – shopping is more fun with friends anyways,” the company wrote. “GSC” refers to a product flavored like Girl Scout Cookies.

The scout’s father told television station KGTV in San Diego that his daughter sold more than 300 boxes in the span of about six hours.

Girl Scouts San Diego says booth sales do not start for another week, but that scouts are allowed to sell from wagons as long as they have a parent or guardian present.

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Post by Skeeve » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:18 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:It's not the most falsifiable of predictions, i know, but I predict I will go to my grave and it will still be illegal on a federal level. Lots of moneyed interests want it that way and money talks
Well Nyarlathoetep, it might not take that long. Maybe...
Challenge to Federal Marijuana Laws to Be Heard in New York
NEW YORK (AP) — Army veteran Jose Belen says the horrors of the Iraq War left him with post-traumatic stress disorder and the drug that helped him cope best with the symptoms was one his Veterans Affairs doctors could not legally prescribe: marijuana.

"Once I did use cannabis, immediately I felt the relief," said Belen, who is now working with other medical marijuana users to mount a long-shot court challenge to federal laws criminalizing the drug.
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Government lawyers will argue Wednesday before U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein in New York that the law is well-grounded and the case should be dismissed.

The suit originally was filed in July as a growing number of states have broken with the federal government and declared marijuana to be legal. Thirty have now legalized it in some fashion, including six for recreational use.
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In a court filing, government attorneys said the administration "uniformly rejects the notion that there is a fundamental right to use marijuana, including for medical purposes."

Marijuana got its Schedule 1 designation as part of the ranking or "scheduling" of drugs under the 1970 Controlled Substances Act.

According to the lawsuit, Republican President Richard Nixon ignored an expert panel's recommendation that possession of cannabis for personal use be decriminalized because he wanted to use drug policy to target anti-war protesters and black people.
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:41 pm

Yawn.

Wake me when a challenge like this actually succeeds
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:43 pm

Pot being illegal is an integral part of “The War on Drugs”. “The War On Drugs” is useful cover for politicians and the rich to take away our rights. Too useful to ever go away
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Post by Skeeve » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:03 pm

Nyarlathotep wrote:Pot being illegal is an integral part of “The War on Drugs©.”
“The War On Drugs” is useful cover for politicians and the rich to take away our rights. Too useful to ever go away
FTFY

Yes, all that is still true, however....
One thing has changed. States are beginning to "find out" that pot-tax revenue ain't chicken feed...
Colorado passes a milestone for pot revenue
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Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:24 pm

Politicians only care about revenues insofar as it gives them something to campaign on. They will happily forego them if doing so is more useful to their own personal ambitions than increasing them.
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Post by WildCat » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:50 pm

I still predict prices will collapse once it's legalized federally.

I suspect that's why there hasn't been a big push to legalize federally.
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Post by Grammatron » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:04 pm

WildCat wrote:I still predict prices will collapse once it's legalized federally.

I suspect that's why there hasn't been a big push to legalize federally.
I've already noticed prices to edge down by few bucks. I'm paying less than I did when it was all black market.

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Post by Skeeve » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:37 pm

Grammatron wrote:
WildCat wrote:I still predict prices will collapse once it's legalized federally.

I suspect that's why there hasn't been a big push to legalize federally.
I've already noticed prices to edge down by few bucks. I'm paying less than I did when it was all black market.
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Link: Marijuana index: Wholesale cannabis prices at all-time low in Colorado; good for consumers, bad for growers

I wonder what the graph over the last 3 plus years would look like....
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