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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:34 pm

Ya know, ed's ass can accomplish both of those goals.

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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:36 pm

Rob Lister wrote:Ya know, ed's ass can accomplish both of those goals.
C'mon ed, how about it?

Your ass can save us all. :)

Might even make up for you voting for Trump. :evil:
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by ed » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:48 pm

Worship my ass!!!
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:53 pm

ed wrote:Worship my ass!!!
Save the world first, then we'll see.
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:28 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
ed wrote:Worship my ass!!!
Save the world first, then we'll see.
Yea. Until then we'll just admire it.

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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:55 pm

Rob Lister wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
ed wrote:Worship my ass!!!
Save the world first, then we'll see.
Yea. Until then we'll just admire it.
Rob admires it enough for both of us, so I'll hang back on that bit at least for now.
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Witness » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:17 am

ed wrote:Worship my ass!!!
That's it – let's put ed in orbit, so he can, as a major deity, shine his blessings on all of us; and clean up most of the space litter as well.

Six, or perhaps eight, of these heavy-duty Russian rockets should do the job.

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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:44 am

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ed wrote:If we increased the mass of the earth gravitational attraction would increase thus scouring the space junk. Then all one would have to do is reduce the mass again.
This might not work as although it would pull the orbiting junk lower, it would also compress the atmosphere so that the junk would need to get lower before encountering appreciable atmospheric drag.
That's why you reduce the mass again. Duh.
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Doctor X » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:59 am

Why not just send the trash to Uranus, Anax.






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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:05 am

Speaking of space junk:

The first 'nation in space' has officially left Earth (Cnet)
Asgardia, a self-declared nation, is now floating above us, drifting toward the International Space Station... and perhaps destiny.
An odd but intriguing experiment in technology, diplomacy, governance and space exploration, among other things, has officially begun its journey.

After being delayed one day, an Orbital ATK Antares rocket carrying a cubesat named Asgardia-1 launched from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia early Sunday. The milk carton-sized satellite makes up the entirety of territory of the self-proclaimed "Space Kingdom" of Asgardia.

"Asgardia space kingdom has now established its sovereign territory in space," read an online statement.

Over 300,000 people signed up online to become "citizens" of the nation over the last year. The main privilege of citizenship so far involves the right to upload data to Asgardia-1 for safekeeping in orbit, seemingly far away from the pesky governments and laws of Earth-bound countries.

But if you really dig down into Asgardia's terms and conditions, you'll find that those privileges are still subject to earthly copyright laws -- they're set up under the laws of Austria.

As of now, Asgardia's statehood isn't acknowledged by any other actual countries or the United Nations, and it doesn't really even fit the definition of a nation since it's not possible for a human to physically live in Asgardia.

Not yet, at least. The long-term vision for Asgardia includes human settlements in space, on the moon and perhaps even more distant colonies.

For now, though, Asgardia is a tiny satellite inside a Cygnus spacecraft set to dock with the International Space Station Tuesday morning. There, Asgardia-1 will patiently wait while Orbital ATK completes its primary mission to resupply the ISS.

After about a month, the Cygnus will detach and climb to a higher altitude where the nation-in-a-box will be deployed into orbit.

We'll see if the activation of Asgardia-1 heralds the beginning of a new era of extra-planetary citizenship, or if it slowly fades into obscurity with each trip around our planet and its nearly 200 more conventional nations.
Just one more piece of debris to clutter up LEO. :roll:

So it's the size of a milk carton, its "function" seems dubious at best. This is like sovereign citizen level magical thinking, that you can declare a microsatellite with no people as a sovereign nation. The article doesn't mention how much it weighs, but I'm guessing less than 10 kg, which would make it a "nanosatellite". This seems to be a new trend, but I can't help thinking that eventually these small, cheap satellites may end up ruining everything due to the space junk problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_satellite
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by sparks » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:52 am

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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:07 pm

Anaxagoras wrote: Just one more piece of debris to clutter up LEO. :roll:
SpaceX is about to but over 4000 of them up there, essentially quadrupling the number then now.
Cooper said the plan would put 4,425 satellites into orbit around the Earth, operating in 83 planes, at fairly low altitudes of between 1,110 kilometers and 1,325 kilometers.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/4/15539 ... aunch-2019

On the bright side, these deorbit themselves when their lifecycle ends.

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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by gnome » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:30 pm

Let's build lasers, to zap all the space junk.
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:34 pm

gnome wrote:Let's build lasers, to zap all the space junk.
(12 year old me answering the question, thinking lasers are the answer to everything)
And now you have hot space junk.

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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by gnome » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:14 pm

Nukes?

Then we can have RADIOACTIVE hot space junk.
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:23 pm

I actually like the laser idea. Make sure the platforms look like sharks.

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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by ed » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:26 pm

I really don't give a rat's ass about this issue.
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by gnome » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:48 pm

I don't think the rat's asses are big enough to help anyway.
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Re: Deorbiting space junk

Post by ed » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:36 pm

QED
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